Re: [netext] Flow Mobility Draft
Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> Wed, 23 July 2014 17:23 UTC
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From: Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [netext] Flow Mobility Draft
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Sri, On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) <sgundave@cisco.com> wrote: > Behcet, > > Ok. Fair enough. I introduced a change related to UPN/FMI/FMA in the > current version of the document. The proposal based on offline discussions > was posted on June/19/2014 and subsequently when no objections were cited, > the editor of the document drafted the text and inserted the same into the > document. The story does not stop there, there are other thing on UPN/UPA (by the way it is UPN/UPA not UPN/FMI/FMA). > Bottom line, if you have a issue with the current version, please post > your issue. State the problem, suggest the text. Do not send your version > of the document to the Editor to be included. I will not agree with you or > any one else editing the document and inserting text for an issue that has > no WG consensus. The point is on the consensus on on the issue and let the > Editor do the drafting. But, if the issue is with the Editor's text, post > it to the group and challenge it/suggest changes, don't just edit WG > document. > > Please play by the rules. > I already did. You can check in the archive. I asked many questions and received no replies. I read Rev. 10 sentence by sentence. I don't think anybody else did this in the WG. I can claim that I know flow mobility and I can show my credentials. My assessment was that the only way to incorporate my comments is to edit Rev. 10 completely and that's what I did. Regards, Behcet > > > Sri > > > > > On 7/23/14 9:44 AM, "Behcet Sarikaya" <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> wrote: > >>Hi Sri, >> >>On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) >><sgundave@cisco.com> wrote: >>> Behcet, >>> >>> Please post your proposed changes to the ML. >> >>I expected that the chairs would post Rev. 11 on the list, it seems >>they did not. >>I am going to post it hopefully before the meeting. >> >> >> >>> There is an editor for the >>> document, so its more appropriate you let the WG decide as what goes >>>into >>> the document. Document editor just follows the WG consensus. You know >>>this >>> all very well .. >> >>You mean when you say something it is consensus when I say something it >>is not? >> >>The editor is supposed to handle all comments. I don't remember the >>editors asking the WG for every comment made, is there consensus on >>this comment? I did not know that IETF worked like that. >> >>Regards, >> >>Behcet >> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> Sri >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/8/14 9:46 AM, "Behcet Sarikaya" <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Hi all, >>>> >>>>I have been commenting on draft-ietf-netext-pmipv6-flowmob for years. >>>>At some point the chairs set up the issue tracker and asked us to use >>>>it. I did put many comments on the issue tracker. >>>> >>>>In the meantime I have been involved in HA based flow binding entitled >>>>Flow Bindings Initiated by Home Agents for Mobile IPv6 >>>>work was published as RFC 7109. >>>> >>>>I have noticed that the editor has consistently ignored all these >>>>efforts. >>>> >>>>Now that we came to a point of final decision, I decided to put all my >>>>comments in writing. I made an xml file from Rev. 10 >>>>(BTW we had asked the editor to submit xml file for the draft but he >>>>did not listen as usual) and produced a complete revision which I >>>>called Rev. 11 and sent it in an email to the chairs. >>>> >>>>Here are the main points in this draft: >>>>This version is 5+ pages shorter than Rev. 10. >>>>This version removes the use cases section and replaces it with an >>>>overview of flow mobility actions describing the flow mobility >>>>protocol explicitly. >>>>This version removes FMI/FMA section. >>>>This version adds Local Mobility Anchor Considerations, Mobile Access >>>>Gateway considerations >>>>and much needed IPv4 flow mobility support sections. >>>>This section uses UPN/UPA messages to carry Flow Identification >>>>Mobility option and Flow Binding Action Sub-Option >>>> and Target Care-of Address Sub-Option defined in RFC7109. >>>> >>>>I propose this version to be used for further work and let Carlos >>>>further maintain the document in just a few steps that are left. >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>> >>>>Behcet >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>netext mailing list >>>>netext@ietf.org >>>>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext >>> >
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