[Netext] next steps for netext

sgundave at cisco.com (Sri Gundavelli) Mon, 06 April 2009 17:11 UTC

From: "sgundave at cisco.com"
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:11:10 -0700
Subject: [Netext] next steps for netext
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Hi Teemu,


On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, teemu.savolainen at nokia.com wrote:

> Hi Sri,
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: netext-bounces at mail.mobileip.jp
>> [mailto:netext-bounces at mail.mobileip.jp] On Behalf Of ext Sri
>> Gundavelli
>> Sent: 06 April, 2009 19:11
>> "unmodified host" can leverage that feature. As we discussed
>> earlier, we have a major terminology problem, on what is
>> "modified" vs "un modified". If I use Windows SDK and
>> implement a virtual interface, no one can claim the host is
>> now modified. Its an application, or a configuration such as
>> using bridge ctl utuility in Linux. Its not changing any of
>
> At least in my vocabulary that counts as modified host - things are changed in a host to make it behave differently.

Perfectly fine, if that is the definition of "modified host". I'd
ask, show me a reference implementation of a host, which tells
me what is the basic software that is standard and beyond which
is considered a modified host. Where is that sacred host stack
definition.

When I install a OS on my PC, I will install 20 other applications and
this action is not resulting in my host not inter-operating with any
other host. That should be our interest and not on what applications I
install.

Also, if this is indeed the definition, 5213 already requires this change
on the host and we have to live with it.

Regards
Sri