Re: [Nethistory] DNS-in-a-wallet

Geoff Thompson <thompson@ieee.org> Sat, 11 January 2014 06:59 UTC

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With respect to naming...
(our discussion of a couple of weeks ago)
See the diagram on page 8 of the attachment.

	Geoff

	



On Jan 1, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Geoff Thompson wrote:

> Guy-
> My memory is from the 73-74 time frame.
> The allocations on Bob's two cards would only have been for the top  
> level
> The ARPAnet was still quite small and the map diagrams of network  
> hosts still fit on one 8 1/2 X 11 sheet of paper.
> I believe that there were domain names at that point.
> My earliest recollections of e-mail (that period) and finger had  
> domain names
>
> I would suggest asking Bob Taylor
>
> Geoff
>
> On Jan 1, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Guy Almes wrote:
>
>> Ian / Zach,
>> I strongly suspect that the days when all the IP address  
>> allocations fit on Bob's two cards were long before there were  
>> domain names.
>> 	-- Guy
>>
>> On 1/1/14, 2:58 AM, Ian Peter wrote:
>>> pretty sure it would have only been numbers, but people here who  
>>> were
>>> closer to the action might have some good anecdotal and additional
>>> information
>>> Ian Peter
>>> *From:* Zach Lym <mailto:zachlym@indolering.com>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 01, 2014 6:28 PM
>>> *To:* Ian Peter <mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com>
>>> *Cc:* nethistory@ietf.org <mailto:nethistory@ietf.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Nethistory] DNS-in-a-wallet
>>> Thank you Peter, you have made my night!  Any chance you could help
>>> clarify if it was just IP addresses allocations or whether it  
>>> included
>>> domain names as well?
>>> It part of a presentation I am giving on Namecoin DNS.  Bob's email
>>> would be idea?
>>> Thank you,
>>> -Zach Lym
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Ian Peter <ian.peter@ianpeter.com
>>> <mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   I think the original story is that Bob Kahn had it on one card in
>>>   his pocket, but when it expanded to two cards he gave it to Jon
>>>   Postel to manage. Bob refers to it here (towards the end of the  
>>> article)
>>>   http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/31/science/viewing-where-the-internet-goes.html?_r=0
>>>   Meanwhile a later piece of history is below – John Quartermans  
>>> 1990
>>>   713 page book of all existing networks he could locate. Not all of
>>>   these were TCP/IP at the time but over a period of about 3 years
>>>   from then they would have all adopted TCP/IP or folded.
>>>   http://books.google.com.au/books/about/The_Matrix.html?id=kwIjAAAAMAAJ&redir_esc=y
>>>   Ian Peter
>>>   *From:* Zach Lym <mailto:zachlym@indolering.com>
>>>   *Sent:* Tuesday, December 31, 2013 9:23 AM
>>>   *To:* nethistory@ietf.org <mailto:nethistory@ietf.org>
>>>   *Subject:* [Nethistory] DNS-in-a-wallet
>>>   My apologies if this is the wrong list to post this to, but I  
>>> have a
>>>   historical anecdote that I'm trying to chase down.  I thought this
>>>   was the most appropriate forum to do so.
>>>
>>>   I had a memory of one of the early internet engineers storing a  
>>> copy
>>>   of the IP address allocations or DNS mappings in her/his wallet.
>>>   Then if someone asked her/him for and IP or domain (I can't  
>>> remember
>>>   which) s/he would write it down on the list and then update the
>>>   server when s/he got back to it.
>>>   I would be grateful if you could direct me to a better list or
>>>   circulate this email among knowledgeable individuals.
>>>   Thank you,
>>>   -Zach Lym
>>>    
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