[Nethistory] The Internet, Architecture, Governance, Technical Work and Net History: A Speci

Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> Tue, 23 April 2019 12:44 UTC

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From: Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 19:44:01 +0700
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Dear All,

As Brian E. Carpenter referred the "Internet Architecture" to Internet
protocols and their designs (mentioned in my message April 21st 2019): it
looks "special" to mention "RFC 791: Internet Protocol" (J. Postel,
September 1981) and its histories -- those obsolete and updates: which is
about the name/title "Internet Protocol" they have...

https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc791

The RFC 791 is one of Official Internet Protocol Standards: Internet
Standards --of which there are ones do not use terms "Internet Protocol" --
for examples "Transmission Control Protocol", "User Datagram Protocol", "
Broadcasting Internet Datagrams"...

https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards

Regard,
Guntur Wiseno Putra

Pada Selasa, 23 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>; menulis:

> Dear All,
>
> As Brian E. Carpenter referred the "Internet Architecture" to Internet
> protocols and their designs (mentioned in my message April 21st 2019): it
> looks "special" to mention "RFC 791: Internet Protocol" (J. Postel,
> September 1981) and its histories -- those obsolete and updates: which is
> about the name/title "Internet Protocol" they have....
>
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc791
>
> Regard,
> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>
> Pada Selasa, 23 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>;
> menulis:
>
>> Dear Hesham and All,
>>
>>
>> There is a need for correction for the earlier message:
>>
>> The update "The Architectural Guidelines" (2002) --which I missed
>> before-- was made to propose such an extension of "Architectural Principles
>> of the Internet" (1996) as the latter considered complexity (control) in
>> relation with the Internet in large scale...
>>
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3439.txt
>>
>> It should be:
>>
>> The update "The Architectural Guidelines" (2002) --which I missed
>> before-- was made to propose such an extension of "Architectural Principles
>> of the Internet" (1996) as the first considered complexity (control) in
>> relation with the Internet in large scale...
>>
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3439.txt
>>
>>
>> Regard,
>> Gintur Wiseno Putra
>>
>> Pada Selasa, 23 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>;
>> menulis:
>>
>>> Dear Hesham and All,
>>>
>>> The update "The Architectural Guidelines" (2002) --which I missed
>>> before-- was made to propose such an extension of "Architectural Principles
>>> of the Internet" (1996) as the latter considered complexity (control) in
>>> relation with the Internet in large scale...
>>>
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3439.txt
>>>
>>>
>>> Regard,
>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>
>>>
>>> Pada Senin, 22 April 2019, Hesham ElBakoury <Hesham.ElBakoury@huawei.com>;
>>> menulis:
>>>
>>>> I think you meant RFC1958 which is updated by RFC3439.
>>>>
>>>> Hesham
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Architecture-discuss [mailto:architecture-discuss-b
>>>> ounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2019 6:41 AM
>>>> *To:* architecture-discuss@ietf.org; internetgovtech@iab.org;
>>>> nethistory@ietf.org
>>>> *Subject:* [arch-d] The Internet, Architecture, Governance, Technical
>>>> Work and Net History: A Speci
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Of the question "What is the Internet Architecture?" mentioned in the
>>>> earlier message:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brian. E. Carpenter's text "RFC 1985: Architectural Principles of the
>>>> Internet" mentioned about Internet protocols and their design: May this
>>>> links helpful to get arrived there at related archives ( as the text did
>>>> not use any online source but suppposedly paper ones as references)...:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search?name=
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - https://www.rfc-editor.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Here are  menus "Internet Standard", "Official Internet Protocol
>>>> Standards", and "advanced search".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regard,
>>>>
>>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>>
>>>> Pada Senin, 22 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>;
>>>> menulis:
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Individuals, or collectifs of individuals, are in an age of the
>>>> Internet. It is such a presence may be approached and sensed by many ways
>>>> --even when one said that s/he had just eat a food which a receipt was
>>>> gotten by communicating by the Internet..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Among others there are presences of "the Internet Architecture",
>>>> "Internet Governance and Technical Work" and "Net History" as they
>>>> represent interest-based mailing lists. How could one get arrived into
>>>> those matters (together) --such a programmatic readership/learning: as
>>>> sources and concepts have history and discources collectives/net... ?
>>>> Should we imagine about information sources by making such a readership
>>>> based on the linkage between the three...? Thus we may say about "The
>>>> Internet Architecture, Governance and Technical Works: a Net History" (to
>>>> say "A Net History in Terms of The Internet Architecture, Governance and
>>>> Technical Work)...? --there would be a discourse map on the special
>>>> readership which is about a co-presence of mailing lists...? --as one may
>>>> use search engines of each mailing list for related interests...?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To make an engagement with the programme should we go with such
>>>> tentative journeys considering parts of the special readership...?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For example:
>>>>
>>>> By considering the reasoning above:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To the question on "What is the Internet Architecture?" we may refer to
>>>> (archival) sources
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "RFC 1958: Architectural Principles of the Internet"
>>>>
>>>> (Carpenter, Brian E. Ed, IAB, 1996)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc1958
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (Note:)
>>>>
>>>> It was a snapshot record of the principles of the Internet Achitecture
>>>> intended for general guidance and general interest...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It was updated by RFC 3439...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Both the concept "Internet Architecture" and the document RFC 1958 have
>>>> history bringing readers to other relevant sources... They supposedly also
>>>> give suggestions to come to broader or other conceptual discourses on
>>>> "governance and technical work"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regard,
>>>>
>>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>>
>>>>