Re: [Nethistory] Need a change

"John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> Fri, 04 January 2019 02:01 UTC

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From: "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
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Subject: Re: [Nethistory] Need a change
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> If we close the list, we're saying either that we (the IETF) don't care, or
> that IETF people are already aware of the need to save stuff.

No, we're just acknowledging that this list hasn't been an effective way 
to encourage people to archive material.


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