[Nethistory] The Internet, Architecture, Governance, Technical Work and Net History: A Speci
Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> Wed, 24 April 2019 07:13 UTC
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:13:09 +0700
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Dear All, The websites www.datatracker.ietf.org and www.rfc-editor.org are historians for the services of historical archives the provide. While a personal historian may deserve to mention, especially on the "Internet Architecture": D. Thaler documented aspects of Internet Protocol service model as they evolved over time .... Some guidence for protocol designers an implementers were also suggested... "RFC 6250: Evolution of IP Service Model" (IAB, May 2011) https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc6250 Regard, Guntur Wiseno Putra Pada Selasa, 23 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> menulis: > Dear All, > > As Brian E. Carpenter referred the "Internet Architecture" to Internet > protocols and their designs (mentioned in my message April 21st 2019): it > looks "special" to mention "RFC 791: Internet Protocol" (J. Postel, > September 1981) and its histories -- those obsolete and updates: which is > about the name/title "Internet Protocol" they have... > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc791 > > The RFC 791 is one of Official Internet Protocol Standards: Internet > Standards --of which there are ones do not use terms "Internet Protocol" -- > for examples "Transmission Control Protocol", "User Datagram Protocol", " > Broadcasting Internet Datagrams"... > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards > > Regard, > Guntur Wiseno Putra > > Pada Selasa, 23 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> > menulis: > >> Dear All, >> >> As Brian E. Carpenter referred the "Internet Architecture" to Internet >> protocols and their designs (mentioned in my message April 21st 2019): it >> looks "special" to mention "RFC 791: Internet Protocol" (J. Postel, >> September 1981) and its histories -- those obsolete and updates: which is >> about the name/title "Internet Protocol" they have.... >> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc791 >> >> Regard, >> Guntur Wiseno Putra >> >> Pada Selasa, 23 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> >> menulis: >> >>> Dear Hesham and All, >>> >>> >>> There is a need for correction for the earlier message: >>> >>> The update "The Architectural Guidelines" (2002) --which I missed >>> before-- was made to propose such an extension of "Architectural Principles >>> of the Internet" (1996) as the latter considered complexity (control) in >>> relation with the Internet in large scale... >>> >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3439.txt >>> >>> It should be: >>> >>> The update "The Architectural Guidelines" (2002) --which I missed >>> before-- was made to propose such an extension of "Architectural Principles >>> of the Internet" (1996) as the first considered complexity (control) in >>> relation with the Internet in large scale... >>> >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3439.txt >>> >>> >>> Regard, >>> Gintur Wiseno Putra >>> >>> Pada Selasa, 23 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> >>> menulis: >>> >>>> Dear Hesham and All, >>>> >>>> The update "The Architectural Guidelines" (2002) --which I missed >>>> before-- was made to propose such an extension of "Architectural Principles >>>> of the Internet" (1996) as the latter considered complexity (control) in >>>> relation with the Internet in large scale... >>>> >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3439.txt >>>> >>>> >>>> Regard, >>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra >>>> >>>> >>>> Pada Senin, 22 April 2019, Hesham ElBakoury < >>>> Hesham.ElBakoury@huawei.com> menulis: >>>> >>>>> I think you meant RFC1958 which is updated by RFC3439. >>>>> >>>>> Hesham >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Architecture-discuss [mailto:architecture-discuss-b >>>>> ounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Guntur Wiseno Putra >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2019 6:41 AM >>>>> *To:* architecture-discuss@ietf.org; internetgovtech@iab.org; >>>>> nethistory@ietf.org >>>>> *Subject:* [arch-d] The Internet, Architecture, Governance, Technical >>>>> Work and Net History: A Speci >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Of the question "What is the Internet Architecture?" mentioned in the >>>>> earlier message: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Brian. E. Carpenter's text "RFC 1985: Architectural Principles of the >>>>> Internet" mentioned about Internet protocols and their design: May this >>>>> links helpful to get arrived there at related archives ( as the text did >>>>> not use any online source but suppposedly paper ones as references)...: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search?name= >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - https://www.rfc-editor.org/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here are menus "Internet Standard", "Official Internet Protocol >>>>> Standards", and "advanced search". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regard, >>>>> >>>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra >>>>> >>>>> Pada Senin, 22 April 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> >>>>> menulis: >>>>> >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Individuals, or collectifs of individuals, are in an age of the >>>>> Internet. It is such a presence may be approached and sensed by many ways >>>>> --even when one said that s/he had just eat a food which a receipt was >>>>> gotten by communicating by the Internet.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Among others there are presences of "the Internet Architecture", >>>>> "Internet Governance and Technical Work" and "Net History" as they >>>>> represent interest-based mailing lists. How could one get arrived into >>>>> those matters (together) --such a programmatic readership/learning: as >>>>> sources and concepts have history and discources collectives/net... ? >>>>> Should we imagine about information sources by making such a readership >>>>> based on the linkage between the three...? Thus we may say about "The >>>>> Internet Architecture, Governance and Technical Works: a Net History" (to >>>>> say "A Net History in Terms of The Internet Architecture, Governance and >>>>> Technical Work)...? --there would be a discourse map on the special >>>>> readership which is about a co-presence of mailing lists...? --as one may >>>>> use search engines of each mailing list for related interests...? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To make an engagement with the programme should we go with such >>>>> tentative journeys considering parts of the special readership...? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For example: >>>>> >>>>> By considering the reasoning above: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To the question on "What is the Internet Architecture?" we may refer >>>>> to (archival) sources >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "RFC 1958: Architectural Principles of the Internet" >>>>> >>>>> (Carpenter, Brian E. Ed, IAB, 1996) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc1958 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> (Note:) >>>>> >>>>> It was a snapshot record of the principles of the Internet Achitecture >>>>> intended for general guidance and general interest... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It was updated by RFC 3439... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Both the concept "Internet Architecture" and the document RFC 1958 >>>>> have history bringing readers to other relevant sources... They supposedly >>>>> also give suggestions to come to broader or other conceptual discourses on >>>>> "governance and technical work" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regard, >>>>> >>>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra >>>>> >>>>>
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