Re: [Nethistory] DNS-in-a-wallet

"Ian Peter" <ian.peter@ianpeter.com> Wed, 01 January 2014 08:59 UTC

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pretty sure it would have only been numbers, but people here who were closer to the action might have some good anecdotal and additional  information

Ian Peter

From: Zach Lym 
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 6:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [Nethistory] DNS-in-a-wallet

Thank you Peter, you have made my night!  Any chance you could help clarify if it was just IP addresses allocations or whether it included domain names as well? 

It part of a presentation I am giving on Namecoin DNS.  Bob's email would be idea?

Thank you, 
-Zach Lym



On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Ian Peter <ian.peter@ianpeter.com> wrote:

  I think the original story is that Bob Kahn had it on one card in his pocket, but when it expanded to two cards he gave it to Jon Postel to manage. Bob refers to it here (towards the end of the article)

  http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/31/science/viewing-where-the-internet-goes.html?_r=0

  Meanwhile a later piece of history is below – John Quartermans 1990 713 page book of all existing networks he could locate. Not all of these were TCP/IP at the time but over a period of about 3 years from then they would have all adopted TCP/IP or folded.

  http://books.google.com.au/books/about/The_Matrix.html?id=kwIjAAAAMAAJ&redir_esc=y

  Ian Peter


  From: Zach Lym 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 9:23 AM
  To: nethistory@ietf.org 
  Subject: [Nethistory] DNS-in-a-wallet

  My apologies if this is the wrong list to post this to, but I have a historical anecdote that I'm trying to chase down.  I thought this was the most appropriate forum to do so.


  I had a memory of one of the early internet engineers storing a copy of the IP address allocations or DNS mappings in her/his wallet.  Then if someone asked her/him for and IP or domain (I can't remember which) s/he would write it down on the list and then update the server when s/he got back to it.


  I would be grateful if you could direct me to a better list or circulate this email among knowledgeable individuals.


  Thank you, 
  -Zach Lym

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