Re: [Nethistory] DNS-in-a-wallet
Guy Almes <galmes@tamu.edu> Wed, 01 January 2014 15:33 UTC
Return-Path: <prvs=0718fd359=galmes@tamu.edu>
X-Original-To: nethistory@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: nethistory@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D7D1AE32B for <nethistory@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 07:33:37 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -4.738
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.738 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eQAdJIxMsZIs for <nethistory@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 07:33:35 -0800 (PST)
Received: from os-mail-1.tamu.edu (os-mail-1.tamu.edu [165.91.23.62]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67751AE33A for <nethistory@ietf.org>; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 07:33:34 -0800 (PST)
X-TAMU-Auth-ID: galmes@zimbra.tamu.edu
X-TAMU-SenderIP: 74.192.3.38
X-HAT: SG None, P $RELAY, L incoming_auth
X-SRBS: None
X-EXTLoop1: 74.192.3.38
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,585,1384322400"; d="scan'208";a="464843376"
Message-ID: <52C43532.8030609@tamu.edu>
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2014 09:33:06 -0600
From: Guy Almes <galmes@tamu.edu>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Ian Peter <ian.peter@ianpeter.com>, Zach Lym <zachlym@indolering.com>
References: <CABWuLVdY=ry2dZPgNs1_hdx_JkoP7LSwEF+0DxrJCmmfDYM=dQ@mail.gmail.com> <6556602F029841FBB522589C7C4C6473@Toshiba> <CABWuLVd4oqSR-ngB7S6ULcJJQVCzrqcHxQY6EfdzPOX2EVqPaQ@mail.gmail.com> <9258928CFA2E4B369370D278F97D20BB@Toshiba>
In-Reply-To: <9258928CFA2E4B369370D278F97D20BB@Toshiba>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Cc: nethistory@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Nethistory] DNS-in-a-wallet
X-BeenThere: nethistory@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: Matching net historical materials with institutions that may preserve them <nethistory.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/nethistory>, <mailto:nethistory-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/nethistory/>
List-Post: <mailto:nethistory@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:nethistory-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nethistory>, <mailto:nethistory-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2014 15:33:37 -0000
Ian / Zach, I strongly suspect that the days when all the IP address allocations fit on Bob's two cards were long before there were domain names. -- Guy On 1/1/14, 2:58 AM, Ian Peter wrote: > pretty sure it would have only been numbers, but people here who were > closer to the action might have some good anecdotal and additional > information > Ian Peter > *From:* Zach Lym <mailto:zachlym@indolering.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 01, 2014 6:28 PM > *To:* Ian Peter <mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com> > *Cc:* nethistory@ietf.org <mailto:nethistory@ietf.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Nethistory] DNS-in-a-wallet > Thank you Peter, you have made my night! Any chance you could help > clarify if it was just IP addresses allocations or whether it included > domain names as well? > It part of a presentation I am giving on Namecoin DNS. Bob's email > would be idea? > Thank you, > -Zach Lym > > > On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Ian Peter <ian.peter@ianpeter.com > <mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com>> wrote: > > I think the original story is that Bob Kahn had it on one card in > his pocket, but when it expanded to two cards he gave it to Jon > Postel to manage. Bob refers to it here (towards the end of the article) > http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/31/science/viewing-where-the-internet-goes.html?_r=0 > Meanwhile a later piece of history is below – John Quartermans 1990 > 713 page book of all existing networks he could locate. Not all of > these were TCP/IP at the time but over a period of about 3 years > from then they would have all adopted TCP/IP or folded. > http://books.google.com.au/books/about/The_Matrix.html?id=kwIjAAAAMAAJ&redir_esc=y > Ian Peter > *From:* Zach Lym <mailto:zachlym@indolering.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 31, 2013 9:23 AM > *To:* nethistory@ietf.org <mailto:nethistory@ietf.org> > *Subject:* [Nethistory] DNS-in-a-wallet > My apologies if this is the wrong list to post this to, but I have a > historical anecdote that I'm trying to chase down. I thought this > was the most appropriate forum to do so. > > I had a memory of one of the early internet engineers storing a copy > of the IP address allocations or DNS mappings in her/his wallet. > Then if someone asked her/him for and IP or domain (I can't remember > which) s/he would write it down on the list and then update the > server when s/he got back to it. > I would be grateful if you could direct me to a better list or > circulate this email among knowledgeable individuals. > Thank you, > -Zach Lym > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Nethistory mailing list > Nethistory@ietf.org <mailto:Nethistory@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nethistory > > > > _______________________________________________ > Nethistory mailing list > Nethistory@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nethistory >
- [Nethistory] DNS-in-a-wallet Zach Lym
- Re: [Nethistory] DNS-in-a-wallet Ian Peter
- Re: [Nethistory] DNS-in-a-wallet Zach Lym
- Re: [Nethistory] DNS-in-a-wallet Ian Peter
- Re: [Nethistory] DNS-in-a-wallet Guy Almes
- Re: [Nethistory] DNS-in-a-wallet Geoff Thompson
- Re: [Nethistory] DNS-in-a-wallet Geoff Thompson