Re: [netlmm] Some comments // RE: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-netlmm-lma-discovery-05
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From: "Narayanan, Vidya" <vidyan@qualcomm.com>
To: Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net>
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Subject: Re: [netlmm] Some comments // RE: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-netlmm-lma-discovery-05
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Okay, thanks. I started writing the shepherding writeup and realized a couple of things: - Why is RFC5213 not a normative reference for this document? It sounds to me that it should be. IDnits produces a couple of comments: == Outdated reference: draft-ietf-mipshop-pfmipv6 has been published as RFC 5949 -- Obsolete informational reference (is this intentional?): RFC 4306 (Obsoleted by RFC 5996) Please also update the document to address the above references. Jari, I will put the normative reference comment in my writeup and send it - this can be corrected in the next rev along with addressing your comments below. Thanks, Vidya > -----Original Message----- > From: Jari Arkko [mailto:jari.arkko@piuha.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 1:26 AM > To: Narayanan, Vidya > Cc: Vijay Devarapalli; Xiangsong Cui; netlmm@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [netlmm] Some comments // RE: Fwd: New Version > Notification for draft-ietf-netlmm-lma-discovery-05 > > Yes it can be handled as such. In any case, I have to do the AD review > of this document version and there might be other changes, so those too > can be done by Jouni at an appropriate time. > > I have added the document to my queue. > > Jari > > Narayanan, Vidya kirjoitti: > > It seems to me that a reference to RFC5149 and a description of how > it applies is appropriate. Vijay, can this be handled as RFC-Editor > notes? I'm wondering if there is any reason we can't move this > document along to IESG review in its current state. > > > > Vidya > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: netlmm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:netlmm-bounces@ietf.org] On > >> Behalf Of Vijay Devarapalli > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 2:57 PM > >> To: Xiangsong Cui > >> Cc: netlmm@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [netlmm] Some comments // RE: Fwd: New Version > >> Notification for draft-ietf-netlmm-lma-discovery-05 > >> > >> On 9/20/10 8:03 PM, Xiangsong Cui wrote: > >> > >>> I don't think so. > >>> As I said in my earlier mail, I think there is some circulation on > >>> > >> RFC5149 > >> > >>> reference. > >>> > >>> RFC5149 reads, > >>> This document describes a Service Selection Mobility Option for > >>> Mobile IPv6 that is intended to *assist home agents* to make > >>> > >> specific > >> > >>> service selections for the mobility service subscription > **during > >>> > >> the > >> > >>> binding registration procedure.** > >>> > >>> I think this is clear enough, RFC5149 is "assist HA ... during > >>> > >> registration > >> > >>> procedure", right? > >>> While in this draft, we are talking about "assist LMA-discoverer to > >>> > >> select a > >> > >>> LMA, before registration procedure", right? > >>> > >> No. Read through the rest of the Introduction in RFC 5149. It > >> specifically talks about distinguishing between multiple services > that > >> can be provided to a mobile node and how to identify the service > that > >> the mobile node wants to use when it sends a Binding Update to the > home > >> agent. (in PMIPv6, it would be the PBU from the MAG to the LMA). > >> > >> Vijay > >> > >> > >>> How can we mix them together? > >>> > >>> Desired service may be used for purpose A, and may be used for > >>> > >> purpose B, > >> > >>> but this not means A and B *MUST* be free to be cross-referenced, > >>> > >> imho. > >> > >>> So I agree LMA-discovery refer on desired service, and I disagree > >>> LMA-discovery refer on RFC5149. > >>> And I am open for any clarification on desired service, if it is > not > >>> > >> clear. > >> > >>> Xiangsong > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Vijay Devarapalli [mailto:dvijay@gmail.com] > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:40 AM > >>>> To: jouni korhonen > >>>> Cc: Xiangsong Cui; netlmm@ietf.org > >>>> Subject: Re: [netlmm] Some comments // RE: Fwd: New Version > >>>> > >> Notification > >> > >>> for > >>> > >>>> draft-ietf-netlmm-lma-discovery-05 > >>>> > >>>> On 9/16/10 2:44 AM, jouni korhonen wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> Inline.. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Xiangsong Cui wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> [snip] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>> Anyway, I have no problem of removing RFC5149 reference if that > >>>>>>> > >> is > >> > >>>>>> offending. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> It only appeared in -04 version of this draft. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> I prefer "selecting a LMA based on desired services." Thanks! > >>>>>> > >>>>> Ok. Good. > >>>>> > >>>> No, this is too vague. It is hard for someone not familiar with > 3GPP > >>>> > >> to > >> > >>>> figure out what it means to select LMA based on the services > >>>> > >> desired. > >> > >>>> Service specific mobility anchor points are very 3GPP specific. So > I > >>>> think we should have the reference to RFC 5149. That RFC clearly > >>>> explains what a "service" means in addition to defining a new > >>>> > >> mobility > >> > >>>> option. I think you should put back this reference. > >>>> > >>>> Vijay > >>>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> netlmm mailing list > >> netlmm@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netlmm > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > netlmm mailing list > > netlmm@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netlmm > > > >
- [netlmm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-… jouni korhonen
- [netlmm] Some comments // RE: Fwd: New Version No… Xiangsong Cui
- Re: [netlmm] Some comments // RE: Fwd: New Versio… jouni korhonen
- Re: [netlmm] Some comments // RE: Fwd: New Versio… Xiangsong Cui
- Re: [netlmm] Some comments // RE: Fwd: New Versio… jouni korhonen
- Re: [netlmm] Some comments // RE: Fwd: New Versio… Xiangsong Cui
- Re: [netlmm] Some comments // RE: Fwd: New Versio… jouni korhonen
- Re: [netlmm] Some comments // RE: Fwd: New Versio… Vijay Devarapalli
- Re: [netlmm] Some comments // RE: Fwd: New Versio… Xiangsong Cui
- Re: [netlmm] Some comments // RE: Fwd: New Versio… Vijay Devarapalli
- Re: [netlmm] Some comments // RE: Fwd: New Versio… Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [netlmm] Some comments // RE: Fwd: New Versio… Jari Arkko
- Re: [netlmm] Some comments // RE: Fwd: New Versio… Narayanan, Vidya