Re: [Netmod-ver-dt] Version selection

"Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com> Wed, 23 October 2019 22:25 UTC

Return-Path: <rrahman@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: netmod-ver-dt@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: netmod-ver-dt@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B32B120096 for <netmod-ver-dt@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 15:25:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -14.499
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com header.b=Ke3Z6oer; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.onmicrosoft.com header.b=Xk7eb9IV
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KMwUPZZ0BINY for <netmod-ver-dt@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 15:25:21 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.86.76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0468120019 for <netmod-ver-dt@ietf.org>; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 15:25:20 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=7997; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1571869520; x=1573079120; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=SG/MPCkHRkNrwmMvRC6suHUg4TSx3b3RI1aNqTcXoEU=; b=Ke3Z6oersGZRqor4YdGAXas8qvxghDZsjtVc355gvpKG/Asfeby165AA +1tt/cV/xQ+SH0OIJRR4gR6aGp734CzCl8hZLApEJBpLPKHIpNbVipO8j WMc6xBnRDFAjx08WYE36WbVQieOe7qi7nB1PnjJT9IqK3OChCYDrGo7HF I=;
IronPort-PHdr: 9a23:7q3T3h2a6eLj+21NsmDT+zVfbzU7u7jyIg8e44YmjLQLaKm44pD+JxKHt+51ggrPWoPWo7JfhuzavrqoeFRI4I3J8RVgOIdJSwdDjMwXmwI6B8vQE1fyLPvjaQQxHd9JUxlu+HToeUU=
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0APAACW0rBd/5JdJa1lGgEBAQEBAQEBAQMBAQEBEQEBAQICAQEBAYFoBAEBAQELAYEbL1AFbFcgBAsWFAqEHYNHA4pdgl6TIoRhgS4UgRADVAkBAQEMAQEtAgEBhEACF4MdJDUIDgIDCQEBBAEBAQIBBQRthTcMhVABAQEBAxIRHQEBNwEPAgEIEQMBAigDAgICMBQJCAIEAQ0FIoMAAYF5TQMuAagxAoE4iGF1gTKCfgEBBYJJgkMYghcJgTYBjA4YgUA/gTgfgkw+hBIBEgE/FoJaMoIsjQ6CaoU6iTOOfgqCJJUnG5lQjjaVa4NdAgQCBAUCDgEBBYFTATdncXAVZQGCQVAQFIMGg3OKU3SBKYxYgSIBgSkBAQ
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.68,222,1569283200"; d="scan'208,217";a="429894448"
Received: from rcdn-core-10.cisco.com ([173.37.93.146]) by rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA; 23 Oct 2019 22:25:19 +0000
Received: from XCH-RCD-016.cisco.com (xch-rcd-016.cisco.com [173.37.102.26]) by rcdn-core-10.cisco.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x9NMPJ3K026712 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for <netmod-ver-dt@ietf.org>; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 22:25:19 GMT
Received: from xhs-rcd-002.cisco.com (173.37.227.247) by XCH-RCD-016.cisco.com (173.37.102.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1473.3; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 17:25:18 -0500
Received: from xhs-rtp-002.cisco.com (64.101.210.229) by xhs-rcd-002.cisco.com (173.37.227.247) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1473.3; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 17:25:18 -0500
Received: from NAM05-BY2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (64.101.32.56) by xhs-rtp-002.cisco.com (64.101.210.229) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1473.3 via Frontend Transport; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 18:25:17 -0400
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=CFfFaBbjAX5gxReeRlzA+0dhl2JZ6IwRXx4H6zSObAsuyGz1654DKGje1FEg20ny+jvSYO55kzelBP1TD+Syh5l8FggbNBy4PVBuoIW/cWVe6N4eBeICYrf5N1s9PeRdite/iu3Fr5swCUhipexDEolReZCSozqIbXmuXk8B1+R/be+IIY1URxb3Rf8biMeWROYroGJWbJ6uNZ1LBwqc/X8kGY5kBBZ8prOc6UjfnCjYZdHvdRwE7CMU3iUjqZpm5Rpa5sFORWzoFZdYbehw6QQiF0Uo+xGVssFQi6w/S/zKIQXmOlv1KGaqd+0P8FBCLFffbUl6REx0+RtrvtQp6g==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=SG/MPCkHRkNrwmMvRC6suHUg4TSx3b3RI1aNqTcXoEU=; b=YfN6IoK3ksQ/9ILBsQruYfTd+T/dWyB3gS5xFJqcaX7ns0QsWoZlMKvKI6DnFkNcEwfLwY354t5NpKyaE/0UFeIT0zKA+DVRREKaApn75vY8B40o1QZsKQ4razPfW1G7FcMrCoauOps8vvtbgqfA1pGF+6ORs39xgWiEOBJw+MmMXC6nPIDIu5XbtAznUos78hwZ6ULB7ituzzGLb9MrWYW8IvdHb9WSD2T9RYPzzExwkYpjIr4Uwq3kjx8B/1XEGr70ybOJunu3nyKgK91lpM6ITgSBRg/NYzIzXgLZYFoSiKKw77Y1yKk/UZ56v25ZnnXX6IsHR9FK7hPhQKymCg==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cisco.com; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=cisco.com; dkim=pass header.d=cisco.com; arc=none
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cisco.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector2-cisco-onmicrosoft-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=SG/MPCkHRkNrwmMvRC6suHUg4TSx3b3RI1aNqTcXoEU=; b=Xk7eb9IVWvp0GrAoxKRCDEZRVe5G75/3n+Z/JZDG5ImvEHGKjoeVu84e72uMPa2MWua9sSUKWYmTJ4btNPEJERoYVuxnzxVNbMkb1kouPnCr8tdP2BDwRn8rpNxNKq6dzc3lfmCyn4+Xg6RSjbEh944lqovURL7ba59OzDMQWdM=
Received: from MN2PR11MB4157.namprd11.prod.outlook.com (10.255.181.213) by MN2PR11MB4254.namprd11.prod.outlook.com (52.135.38.157) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.2387.20; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 22:25:16 +0000
Received: from MN2PR11MB4157.namprd11.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::88cb:fcc7:df90:124]) by MN2PR11MB4157.namprd11.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::88cb:fcc7:df90:124%5]) with mapi id 15.20.2387.021; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 22:25:16 +0000
From: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com>
To: "Joe Clarke (jclarke)" <jclarke@cisco.com>, "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>
CC: "netmod-ver-dt@ietf.org" <netmod-ver-dt@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Netmod-ver-dt] Version selection
Thread-Index: AQHViQkOvI26xPMrfUK7KEA4CIpe+adoAhqggACwRAD//9n9gA==
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 22:25:16 +0000
Message-ID: <40EAA69F-3C3F-4BC6-B52F-A14E747441C6@cisco.com>
References: <E1941124-CBFE-4522-9DB2-37F8C92D44FF@cisco.com> <MN2PR11MB4366AFA861CD8EC4D8525747B56B0@MN2PR11MB4366.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> <D67F06A1-B821-488A-8BF7-42C379147EB4@cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <D67F06A1-B821-488A-8BF7-42C379147EB4@cisco.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/10.1c.0.190812
authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=rrahman@cisco.com;
x-originating-ip: [173.38.117.68]
x-ms-publictraffictype: Email
x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: ff489fd7-fdfa-4e47-b236-08d75807e16f
x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: MN2PR11MB4254:
x-ms-exchange-transport-forked: True
x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: <MN2PR11MB42543D48246E409589CCF5EDAB6B0@MN2PR11MB4254.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:9508;
x-forefront-prvs: 019919A9E4
x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(4636009)(376002)(366004)(396003)(39860400002)(346002)(136003)(199004)(189003)(51444003)(256004)(76176011)(6486002)(236005)(110136005)(5660300002)(71190400001)(71200400001)(2906002)(58126008)(316002)(3846002)(66066001)(6116002)(99286004)(81166006)(8676002)(81156014)(8936002)(33656002)(6246003)(6636002)(25786009)(478600001)(36756003)(26005)(54896002)(229853002)(6436002)(486006)(86362001)(186003)(476003)(14454004)(2616005)(11346002)(6306002)(76116006)(6506007)(66946007)(7736002)(64756008)(66476007)(102836004)(6512007)(66446008)(446003)(4326008)(53546011)(66556008); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:MN2PR11MB4254; H:MN2PR11MB4157.namprd11.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; LANG:en; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1;
received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: cisco.com does not designate permitted sender hosts)
x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1
x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: a+iSq/5aZpcGwMiIOh2Sb/F/NdrLtSDzglmGUROVe3xbXWmXMlNY5hZnWJRwWvUkkFcH55RyIGtb+3yWQ7wrXRbph64BE3WiVG32T9G2VCT4UwPk69/10/Q0R6ffIx9Qrqz5nf2M/PXHY6XxolfYWi4E4Hq0oht7VoAZBaePVi0Pq3kJN888QUjPGb9YUG6Yb4+K/SKd5rey2dZN2U60zlPGiW3vcibIlxWPx5wynnbfT6xubWhIKc7ice8ROObYEiHX39Khb/Fcnm1SYr4CNc7B3+AHg0yzeIiAgy3wBS63lBHoP0k2aVJjNRO04mG4QKyc0eBGjKIyYbo4v7JAsf8XkIpN6482mqYrSdR4ZM4qyX7v47ghwl5MLTH4qbQnWhZB9POjnOXTZyk6OHFSni1nZ72KT7iliQ0tjO2+FeVNAZjgFsPEPeeqQIfdAqwL
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_40EAA69F3C3F4BC6B52FA14E747441C6ciscocom_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: ff489fd7-fdfa-4e47-b236-08d75807e16f
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 23 Oct 2019 22:25:16.5733 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 5ae1af62-9505-4097-a69a-c1553ef7840e
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: 4YZTMn6Ij4gA45F6ia5jzAIs+iI3cypiBnpWJjIJMWW5XlTBHab/JG0wIkxMilJXT3WGns+NZjs++bjin2lX9w==
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: MN2PR11MB4254
X-OriginatorOrg: cisco.com
X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 173.37.102.26, xch-rcd-016.cisco.com
X-Outbound-Node: rcdn-core-10.cisco.com
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/netmod-ver-dt/w9GegEobasVSJ0dCXGxuXCyB4ik>
Subject: Re: [Netmod-ver-dt] Version selection
X-BeenThere: netmod-ver-dt@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: NetMod WG YANG Model Versioning Design Team <netmod-ver-dt.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/netmod-ver-dt>, <mailto:netmod-ver-dt-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/netmod-ver-dt/>
List-Post: <mailto:netmod-ver-dt@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:netmod-ver-dt-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod-ver-dt>, <mailto:netmod-ver-dt-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 22:25:23 -0000

From: "Joe Clarke (jclarke)" <jclarke@cisco.com>
Date: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 4:41 PM
To: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>
Cc: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com>, "netmod-ver-dt@ietf.org" <netmod-ver-dt@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Netmod-ver-dt] Version selection

On Oct 23, 2019, at 09:13, Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com<mailto:rwilton@cisco.com>> wrote:

Hi Reshad, all,

Personally, I think that the number one requirement here is allow a device to be configured such that the entire device uses a particular schema family at a particular version.  Ideally, I would like the selection of this schema be written into configuration, and to be able to boot from this configuration (which may mean that I want the schema selection YANG module to be able to exist in all schema families).

I agree with this.  It seems this will be what a number of vendors may opt for in lieu of per-session selection.

<RR> The reason to have per session selection is that various clients may be able to handle different versions. I agree that the config for the default behaviour above is needed, that’s what the default-schema-set is meant to be. Anyway I’ve just replied to Rob’s email, so let’s continue discussing that point there.

Regards,
Reshad.


Joe