Re: [netmod] upcoming adoptions

Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Fri, 08 September 2017 12:38 UTC

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Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2017 14:38:53 +0200
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
To: Robert Wilton <rwilton@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] upcoming adoptions
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On Fri, Sep 08, 2017 at 01:19:03PM +0100, Robert Wilton wrote:
> 
> In the same vane, I think that you could regard RFC 6087 and 6087bis as one
> long list of CLRs ...
>

No. There are guidelines that have a clear technical reason. An example:

   The 'preceding-sibling' and 'following-sibling' axes SHOULD NOT used.
   A server is only required to maintain the relative XML document order
   of all instances of a particular user-ordered list or leaf-list.

This is very different from guidelines how things should be named that
do not have a real technical reason. In SMIv2 land, we had this weird
rule that names of counters should end with a plural 's' and tools
started to implement this and to complain if there was no plural s.
(Actually, tools checked whether the last character is an s, which of
course does not mean there is a plural form.) And of course, there are
irregular nouns in English wrt. plural forms.

I do not want rules that say '-state' should not be used. There may
be valid reasons to use '-state'.

/js

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