Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length
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Subject: Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length
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Yes, correct, my misremembering (I'm working also with JSONSchema which doesn't have that). > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Bjorklund [mailto:mbj@tail-f.com] > Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 2:04 PM > To: Michael Rehder <Michael.Rehder@Amdocs.com> > Cc: netmod@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length > > Hi, > > Michael Rehder <Michael.Rehder@Amdocs.com> wrote: > > [...] > > > Note also that the ietf pattern regexp are not anchored so " > > junk192.168.1.1" > > and > > " 192.168.1.1 " > > Are accepted. > > No, this is not correct. YANG uses the XSD "dialect" of regular expressions. In > this dialect, all patterns are implicitly anchored. > > > /martin > > > I don't know why they are unanchored. This makes them unusable in my > > view. > > > > As a result I've written my own regxp and a somewhat elaborate MUST > > clause for canonical format check but a specific type would be better. > > Another perspective is to ensure there is some way to avoid using MUST > > to simply constrain type. > > Has that ever been discussed? > > > > Thanks > > Mike > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 16:38:34 +0200 > > > From: Kristian Larsson <kristian@spritelink.net> > > > To: netmod@ietf.org > > > Subject: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length > > > Message-ID: <10d3413c-df96-6e7d-df82-5542bb02348d@spritelink.net> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > seeing that 6991 is up for a refresh I wonder if this would be the > > > time to suggest the addition of a type for > > > address-and-prefix-length, for example like 192.0.2.1/24? > > > > > > I find that it's the most natural way express the address and > > > prefix-length to configure on an interface or for some other use. We > > > currently have an ip-prefix type which allows CIDR style prefixes > > > but since all bits to the right of the mask is to be 0 it is only > > > possible to use for describing the IP prefix / network address > > > itself - not the address of a host in that network. > > > > > > I actually wish the interface-ip modules would have used a combined > > > leaf for these settings rather than the dual-leaf approach it > > > currently has, but I suppose that ship has sailed :/ > > > > > > Regardless, can we add such a type? Is this the document and time to > > > do it? :) > > > > > > Kind regard, > > > Kristian. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 18:13:21 +0200 > > > From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> > > > To: Kristian Larsson <kristian@spritelink.net> > > > Cc: <netmod@ietf.org> > > > Subject: Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length > > > Message-ID: > > > <20190401161321.seiodlfsmjjvjcp5@anna.jacobs.jacobs-university.de> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > This is the right time for this and I would call these > > > ip-address-prefix, ipv4- address-prefix and ipv6-address prefix. > > > > > > /js > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 04:38:34PM +0200, Kristian Larsson wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > seeing that 6991 is up for a refresh I wonder if this would be the > > > > time to suggest the addition of a type for > > > > address-and-prefix-length, for example like 192.0.2.1/24? > > > > > > > > I find that it's the most natural way express the address and > > > > prefix-length to configure on an interface or for some other use. > > > > We currently have an ip-prefix type which allows CIDR style > > > > prefixes but since all bits to the right of the mask is to be 0 it > > > > is only possible to use for describing the IP prefix / network > > > > address itself - not the address of a host in that network. > > > > > > > > I actually wish the interface-ip modules would have used a > > > > combined leaf for these settings rather than the dual-leaf > > > > approach it currently has, but I suppose that ship has sailed :/ > > > > > > > > Regardless, can we add such a type? Is this the document and time > > > > to do it? > > > > :) > > > > > > > > Kind regard, > > > > Kristian. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > netmod mailing list > > > > netmod@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod > > > > > > -- > > > Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH > > > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany > > > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <https://www.jacobs-university.de/> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 3 > > > Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 16:31:12 +0000 > > > From: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> > > > To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>, > > > "Kristian Larsson" <kristian@spritelink.net> > > > Cc: "netmod@ietf.org" <netmod@ietf.org> > > > Subject: Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length > > > Message-ID: <F1537180-6BF3-40C7-BCFA-3AAE0290AE9D@cisco.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > I believe the "address-" could be omitted from the type identifiers. > > > At least within the routing area, "ipv4-prefix" is unambiguous. > > > Thanks, > > > Acee > > > > > > ?On 4/1/19, 12:14 PM, "netmod on behalf of Juergen Schoenwaelder" > > > <netmod-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of j.schoenwaelder@jacobs- > > > university.de> wrote: > > > > > > This is the right time for this and I would call these > > > ip-address-prefix, ipv4-address-prefix and ipv6-address > > > prefix. > > > > > > /js > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 04:38:34PM +0200, Kristian Larsson wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > seeing that 6991 is up for a refresh I wonder if this would be the > > > > time to > > > > suggest the addition of a type for address-and-prefix-length, for > > > > example > > > > like 192.0.2.1/24? > > > > > > > > I find that it's the most natural way express the address and > > > > prefix-length > > > > to configure on an interface or for some other use. We currently have > > > > an > > > > ip-prefix type which allows CIDR style prefixes but since all bits to > > > > the > > > > right of the mask is to be 0 it is only possible to use for describing > > > > the > > > > IP prefix / network address itself - not the address of a host in that > > > > network. > > > > > > > > I actually wish the interface-ip modules would have used a combined > > > > leaf > > > for > > > > these settings rather than the dual-leaf approach it currently has, > > > > but I > > > > suppose that ship has sailed :/ > > > > > > > > Regardless, can we add such a type? Is this the document and time to > > > > do it? > > > > :) > > > > > > > > Kind regard, > > > > Kristian. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > netmod mailing list > > > > netmod@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod > > > > > > -- > > > Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH > > > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | > Germany > > > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <https://www.jacobs-university.de/> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > netmod mailing list > > > netmod@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 4 > > > Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 17:23:37 +0000 > > > From: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> > > > To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>, > > > "Kristian Larsson" <kristian@spritelink.net> > > > Cc: "netmod@ietf.org" <netmod@ietf.org> > > > Subject: Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length > > > Message-ID: <A0F7987F-AA67-4A63-8FEE-3B74B5B47CF1@cisco.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > Ok, now I'm confused. I see that the ietf-inet-type model already > > > has the types ipv4-prefix and ipv6-prefix. How are these any > > > different??? > > > Thanks, > > > Acee > > > > > > ?On 4/1/19, 12:31 PM, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> wrote: > > > > > > I believe the "address-" could be omitted from the type > > > identifiers. At least > > > within the routing area, "ipv4-prefix" is unambiguous. > > > Thanks, > > > Acee > > > > > > On 4/1/19, 12:14 PM, "netmod on behalf of Juergen Schoenwaelder" > > > <netmod-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of j.schoenwaelder@jacobs- > > > university.de> wrote: > > > > > > This is the right time for this and I would call these > > > ip-address-prefix, ipv4-address-prefix and ipv6-address > > > prefix. > > > > > > /js > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 04:38:34PM +0200, Kristian Larsson wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > seeing that 6991 is up for a refresh I wonder if this would be the > > > > time to > > > > suggest the addition of a type for address-and-prefix-length, for > > > > example > > > > like 192.0.2.1/24? > > > > > > > > I find that it's the most natural way express the address and > > > > prefix- > > > length > > > > to configure on an interface or for some other use. We currently > > > > have an > > > > ip-prefix type which allows CIDR style prefixes but since all bits > > > > to the > > > > right of the mask is to be 0 it is only possible to use for > > > > describing the > > > > IP prefix / network address itself - not the address of a host in > > > > that > > > > network. > > > > > > > > I actually wish the interface-ip modules would have used a > > > combined leaf for > > > > these settings rather than the dual-leaf approach it currently has, > > > > but I > > > > suppose that ship has sailed :/ > > > > > > > > Regardless, can we add such a type? Is this the document and time > > > > to do > > > it? > > > > :) > > > > > > > > Kind regard, > > > > Kristian. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > netmod mailing list > > > > netmod@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod > > > > > > -- > > > Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH > > > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany > > > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <https://www.jacobs-university.de/> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > netmod mailing list > > > netmod@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > netmod mailing list > > > netmod@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > End of netmod Digest, Vol 133, Issue 2 > > > ************************************** > > This email and the information contained herein is proprietary and > > confidential and subject to the Amdocs Email Terms of Service, which > > you may review at https://www.amdocs.com/about/email-terms-of-service > > <https://www.amdocs.com/about/email-terms-of-service> > > _______________________________________________ > > netmod mailing list > > netmod@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod > > This email and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs Email Terms of Service, which you may review at https://www.amdocs.com/about/email-terms-of-service <https://www.amdocs.com/about/email-terms-of-service>
- [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Kristian Larsson
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Michael Rehder
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Michael Rehder
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Kristian Larsson
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Kristian Larsson
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Kristian Larsson
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Kristian Larsson
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Christian Hopps
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length tom petch
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Kristian Larsson
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length tom petch
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Christian Hopps
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Alex Campbell
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Christian Hopps
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Kristian Larsson
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Kristian Larsson
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Kristian Larsson
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Kristian Larsson
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Per Hedeland
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Kristian Larsson
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Kristian Larsson
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length tom petch
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] 6991bis: address-with-prefix-length Kristian Larsson