Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library
Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> Thu, 18 January 2018 07:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library
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Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote: > > > On 1/17/2018 11:18 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > ... > >>> My main concern is actually the YL version. I strongly think SM need > >>> to use YL-bis rather that the old YL, so that it can support NMDA. > >>> > >> Right now to SM is independent of Yang Library version and can run > >> with either. > > No this is not correct. SM uses a grouping from the old YANG > > library (for the "use-schema" case), > I thought YLbis was an updat e to UL (i.e., no name change) as such SM > can include either. The old "modules-state" structure is deprecated, and a new structure that allows multiple datastores is defined. Note that YLbis can be used by both NMDA-capabale and non-NMDA-capabale servers. > > and talks about mounting > > "modules-state" ("inline" case). > In informative descriptions only. Certainly these can be changed to > allow for YL-bis if need be. > > >> I certainly would expect use of Yang Library bis and nmda > >> to have advantages. > >> > >>> The implementation effort for supporting the new YL in clients and > >>> servers is minimal, esp. when compared to the efforts involved in > >>> supporting SM. > >>> > >>> Adding an indirection is (for me) less important, but it has the > >>> benefit of solving the two issues (a) and (b) above, and I haven't > >>> seen any technical problem with it. > >>> > >> (A) has implementation implications and those participating in the > >> discussion at the time expressed as not being worth the cost. > >> I don't believe b was seen as a significant issue either. > >> > >>> Do you have any technical concerns with using an annotation as an > >>> indirection? > >>> > >> The technicsl issue I have with the approaches the same one that was > >> raised when debated previously, ie the implementation overhead of > >> requiring inline schemas to be available at the top level. > > Ok. I'm ok with keeping the inline case as it is. However, I think > > we need to use the new YL-bis, so that we can support the NMDA. > Given that NMDA support is not yet fully defined, we're still in the > transition period where support for both NMDA and non-NMDA > implementations need to be considered. Rob presented some options > earlier in the thread that I think captures this. Again, note that YLbis supports both NMDA and non-NMDA servers. Also note that YLbis is just a different read-only monitoring structure. Given an implementation that supports the old YL, it is trivial to add support for YLbis (especially compared to the more than non-trivial amount of work required to support schema mount...). /martin
- [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library joel jaeggli
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library joel jaeggli
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Dean Bogdanovic
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund