Re: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-default
"Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com> Tue, 26 March 2019 09:22 UTC
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From: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>
To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>, "Joe Clarke (jclarke)" <jclarke@cisco.com>
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Thread-Topic: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-default
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Subject: Re: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-default
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+1 to Juergen's comments and diagram. Thanks, Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: netmod <netmod-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Juergen > Schoenwaelder > Sent: 26 March 2019 08:23 > To: Joe Clarke (jclarke) <jclarke@cisco.com> > Cc: netmod@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-default > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 03:12:26AM -0400, Joe Clarke wrote: > > On 3/26/19 01:51, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > > Qin, > > > > > > the idea should be to make things simpler, not more complex. Perhaps > > > it is not necessary to expose N options to reset a device. Perhaps a > > > simple "factory-reset" RPC which resets all relevant datastores in > > > an implementation specific manner is sufficient. Why expose more > > > details to the management client? > > > > This would certainly make it simpler from the RPC standpoint. > > However, if one can <get-data> from the factory-default DSes, I still > > think there is a need to know what factory-default DS maps to what > > other DS (in the case where there might be multiple that are different). > > > > The notion of multiple factory-default datastores sounds complex. And what is a > management application going to do with them? How would a management > application know which sets of datastores to reset together in a meaningful > way? > > My naive interpretation of the factory default DS (a single one) would be that it > exposes the content you will find in <running> after the factory-reset has been > executed. An extended version of Figure 2 of RFC 8342 would look like this: > > +-------------+ +-----------+ +-----------+ > | <candidate> | | <startup> | | <factory> | > | (ct, rw) |<---+ +--->| (ct, rw) | | (ct, ro) | > +-------------+ | | +-----------+ +-----------+ > | | | | | > | +-----------+ | | > +-------->| <running> |<--------+ | > | (ct, rw) |<----------------------------+ > +-----------+ > > And exposing such a factory default datastore would be optional I think. > > /js > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <https://www.jacobs-university.de/> > > _______________________________________________ > netmod mailing list > netmod@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
- [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-defa… Joe Clarke
- Re: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-… Joe Clarke
- Re: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-… joel jaeggli
- Re: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-… Joe Clarke
- Re: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-… Alex Campbell
- Re: [netmod] Question on draft-wu-netmod-factory-… Joe Clarke