Re: [netmod] IETF91 NETMOD agenda ?

Dean Bogdanovic <deanb@juniper.net> Wed, 05 November 2014 16:13 UTC

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From: Dean Bogdanovic <deanb@juniper.net>
To: Balazs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>
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On Nov 5, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Balazs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> A very short overview would be good. All drafts by workgroup in 15 minutes.
> regards Balazs

And what do you hope to achieve with this? You'll hear 1 or 2 sentence per draft and probably will not get more info. It would be much more efficient to block some time at the end of the meeting on Friday and setup Q&A with authors. Then for people who have interest in a particular draft can get answers and if needed continue conversation after the meeting.

Dean

> 
> On 2014-11-05 00:20, Andy Bierman wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> wrote:
>>> Mahesh,
>>> 
>>> Benoit,
>>> 
>>> I was going to give a quick update on the BFD YANG model, which is being
>>> presented/discussed in its own WG.
>>> 
>>> I wonder which ideal outcome you want a presentation in the NETMOD WG?
>>> 
>>> Here's the list of drafts that have normative or unclassified references to
>>> YANG:
>>> 
>>> draft-vanderstok-core-comi-05                     2014-10-27  Active
>>> draft-shi-alto-yang-json-00                       2014-10-27  Active
>>> draft-shi-alto-yang-model-00                      2014-10-27  Active
>>> draft-netmod-clemm-datastore-push-00              2014-10-27  Active
>>> draft-wildes-netmod-syslog-model-05               2014-10-27  Active
>>> draft-zhang-nvo3-yang-active-active-cfg-00        2014-10-27  Active
>>> draft-zaalouk-supa-configuration-model-01         2014-10-27  Active
>>> draft-wang-lime-rpc-yang-oam-management-00        2014-10-27  Active
>>> draft-vergara-flexigrid-yang-00                   2014-10-27  Active
>>> draft-gandhi-mpls-te-yang-model-01                2014-10-27  Active
>>> draft-txh-opsawg-lime-gap-analysis-01             2014-10-27  Active
>>> draft-zheng-netmod-xmi-yang-translation-00        2014-10-27  Active
>>> draft-chen-i2rs-mpls-ldp-info-model-00            2014-10-27  Active
>>> draft-tripathy-cloud-sla-yang-model-00            2014-10-27  Active
>>> draft-clemm-i2rs-yang-l3-topo-00                  2014-10-27  Active
>>> draft-contreras-supa-yang-network-topo-01         2014-10-27  Active
>>> draft-wang-yang-bfd-oam-00                        2014-10-27  Active
>>> draft-ietf-netconf-server-model-04                2014-10-26  Active
>>> draft-ietf-isis-yang-isis-cfg-01                  2014-10-26  Active
>>> draft-shen-l2tpext-l2tpv3-yang-model-00           2014-10-26  Active
>>> draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg-16                  2014-10-26  Active
>>> draft-shaikh-idr-bgp-model-00                     2014-10-26  Active
>>> draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-03                    2014-10-25  Active
>>> draft-pkd-pce-pcep-yang-01                        2014-10-25  Active
>>> draft-sarikaya-dmm-for-wifi-01                    2014-10-24  Active
>>> draft-voit-netmod-peer-mount-requirements-01      2014-10-24  Active
>>> draft-shi-model-json-msg-yang-00                  2014-10-24  Active
>>> draft-liu-pim-igmp-mld-yang-00                    2014-10-23  Active
>>> draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-01                   2014-10-23  Active
>>> draft-liu-pim-yang-00                             2014-10-23  Active
>>> draft-asechoud-netmod-diffserv-model-00           2014-10-22  Active
>>> draft-dong-i2rs-l2-network-topology-00            2014-10-21  Active
>>> draft-bierman-netconf-efficiency-extensions-02    2014-10-21  Active
>>> draft-zhang-nvo3-yang-cfg-00                      2014-10-21  Active
>>> draft-sun-softwire-yang-00                        2014-10-20  Active
>>> draft-yeung-netmod-ospf-02                        2014-10-14  Active
>>> draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-01                    2014-10-13  Active
>>> draft-clemm-i2rs-yang-network-topo-01             2014-10-10  Active
>>> draft-ietf-netconf-call-home-01                   2014-10-10  Active
>>> draft-bogdanovic-netmod-acl-model-02              2014-10-08  Active
>>> draft-clemm-netmod-mount-02                       2014-10-07  Active
>>> draft-zhdankin-netmod-bgp-cfg-01                  2014-10-02  Active
>>> draft-wang-i2rs-ospf-dm-00                        2014-09-26  Active
>>> draft-bhuvan-bmwg-of-controller-benchmarking-01   2014-09-25  Active
>>> draft-zhang-mpls-tp-yang-oam-00                   2014-09-25  Active
>>> draft-bierman-netmod-yang-conformance-04          2014-09-24  Active
>>> draft-ietf-netmod-snmp-cfg-08                     2014-09-18  In IESG
>>> processing - ID Tracker state <RFC Ed Queue>
>>> draft-frank-netconf-conformance-00                2014-09-16  Active
>>> draft-haas-i2rs-netmod-netconf-requirements-00    2014-09-12  Active
>>> draft-lhotka-netmod-yang-metadata-00              2014-09-11  Active
>>> draft-schoenw-lmap-yang-01                        2014-09-02  Active
>>> draft-zhuang-l2vpn-yang-cfg-00                    2014-08-24  Active
>>> draft-zhuang-l2vpn-evpn-yang-cfg-00               2014-08-16  Active
>>> draft-chen-mpls-ldp-yang-cfg-00                   2014-08-15  Active
>>> draft-chen-mpls-te-yang-cfg-00                    2014-08-15  Active
>>> draft-zhuang-l3vpn-yang-cfg-00                    2014-08-15  Active
>>> draft-scharf-alto-yang-00                         2014-07-04  Active
>>> draft-yang-netmod-location-00                     2014-07-04  Active
>>> draft-fang-l3vpn-virtual-pe-05                    2014-07-04  Active
>>> draft-mekking-dnsop-kasp-00                       2014-07-04  Active
>>> draft-xjz-opsawg-nfvmodel-00                      2014-07-04  Active
>>> draft-liu-netmod-yang-abstract-topo-00            2014-07-03  Active
>>> draft-ietf-netconf-yang-patch-01                  2014-07-03  Active
>>> draft-zheng-netmod-integrate-operations-00        2014-07-02  Active
>>> draft-liu-netconf-multi-instances-00              2014-07-02  Active
>>> draft-litkowski-isis-yang-isis-cfg-01             2014-06-27  Active
>>> draft-litkowski-netmod-isis-cfg-00                2014-06-17  Active
>>> draft-lonvick-private-tax-08                      2014-06-09  Active
>>> draft-tp-i2rs-yang-00                             2014-05-08  Active
>>> 
>>> That could be a lot of updates...
>>> I believe we should focus on the YANG models that don't have an existing WG.
>>> 
>> I would prefer to spend all the meeting time
>> trying to discuss open issues in chartered items.  I don't see why
>> the NETMOD WG needs to spend time on status reports for
>> any unchartered work.
>> 
>> I don't agree that NETMOD WG should be the home of SYSLOG
>> or any other protocol specific data models. IMO all those type of drafts
>> should try to find a home in a protocol WG with the right experts.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Reminder: A good avenue for any YANG models is
>>> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/91/tutorials/yang-session.html
>>> 
>>> Regards, Benoit
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue Nov 04 2014 at 8:40:55 AM Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> wrote:
>>>> Mahesh,
>>>> 
>>>> Not sure what exactly you want to present but let me draw your attention
>>>> that the routing-related modules should be taken care of in their respective
>>>> WG. See
>>>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtg-yang-coord/current/msg00094.html
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, Benoit
>>>> 
>>>> Tom,
>>>> 
>>>> I am giving an update on the BFD YANG model in the BFD WG. I can give a
>>>> quick update (~1-2min) in NETMOD if such an update is desired.
>>>> 
>>>> Mahesh Jethanandani
>>>> mjethanandani@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 23, 2014, at 1:43 PM, "Thomas D. Nadeau" <tnadeau@lucidvision.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    We have plenty of runway in the agenda right now so I will put it down
>>>> as two items. We reserved two slots because I feel its important to
>>>> encourage discussion during the face2face meetings so insofar as I can, I
>>>> want to give you enough runway to discuss this in detail.
>>>> 
>>>>    --Tom
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 23, 2014:12:13 PM, at 12:13 PM, Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> apart from the two WG items draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg-16 (to be
>>>> submitted) and draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-01, I’d like to discuss the draft
>>>> and draft-lhotka-netmod-yang-metadata-00. I think 5 minutes would be enough
>>>> for the latter, I could even do it together with yang-json.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, Lada
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 23 Oct 2014, at 18:02, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Thomas D. Nadeau
>>>> <tnadeau@lucidvision.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    Not yet. Please propose topics.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I would like 15 min. to discuss YANG conformance issues, specified in this
>>>> draft:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-bierman-netmod-yang-conformance-04.txt
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> These issues may get resolved in the NETCONF YANG 1.1 virtual interim
>>>> 
>>>> meeting next week. If not, this topic should be discussed at the IETF
>>>> meeting.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    —Tom
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 21, 2014:5:32 PM, at 5:32 PM, Sterne, Jason (Jason)
>>>> <jason.sterne@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a preliminary agenda for the two NETMOD sessions at IETF91 ?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Some thought about topics being split between the 1st (longer) and 2nd
>>>> (shorter) sessions ?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Jason
>>>> 
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