Re: [netmod] IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6991-bis

Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> Thu, 07 April 2022 15:56 UTC

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From: Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2022 08:56:15 -0700
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To: Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6991-bis
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On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 8:31 AM Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net> wrote:

>
> Hi Juergen,
>
> On Apr 7, 2022, at 3:13 AM, Jürgen Schönwälder <
> j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 06, 2022 at 05:49:26PM -0700, IETF Secretariat wrote:
>
>
> The IETF WG state of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6991-bis has been changed to "WG
> Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up" from "Waiting for WG Chair Go-Ahead" by
> Kent
> Watsen:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6991-bis/
>
>
> Dear chairs,
>
> given recent discussions around ip addresses, I am not sure about the
> consensus
>
>
> I just moved the state back so it doesn't suggest consensus.
>
>
>  and perhaps we should consider to name the new date and time
> types differently, e.g.
>
>  date -> date-with-zone
>  date-no-zone -> date
>  time -> time-with-zone
>  time-no-zone -> time
>
> to avoid similar discussions in the future and to adopt a naming style
> where optional elements are reflected in the name instead of using a
> naming style where the absence of optional parts is reflected in the
> name.
>
>
>
> Here's what is intuitive to me:
>
> - date YYYY-MM-DD
> - time hh:mm:ss
>
>
+1


> Effectively your proposal.  I question if "date-with-zone" or
> "time-with-zone" are ever needed.    Certainly not "date-with-zone", as
> there is no way to reason about it.  As for "time-with-zone", I'm
> suspicious, as I've never seen it disconnected from a "date" before.
>
>
Perhaps the clue as to why these problems were not discovered until now.



> Kent // contributor
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Andy


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