Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-19.txt

Alex Campbell <Alex.Campbell@Aviatnet.com> Tue, 16 January 2018 21:46 UTC

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From: Alex Campbell <Alex.Campbell@Aviatnet.com>
To: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>, Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>, "netmod@ietf.org" <netmod@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-19.txt
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By the same reasoning surely UDP should not be available either, because it also doesn't provide security.
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From: netmod <netmod-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
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To: Kent Watsen; netmod@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-19.txt

Hi,
>
>    ** Downref: Normative reference to an Historic RFC: RFC 6587
>
> Kent: hmmm, what's going on here?  This YANG module is providing an ability to configure the "tcp" transport, even though the IESG made that ability historic in 2012 (see IESG Note below).  Searching online, it looks like Cisco supports this, but Juniper does not.  What about other vendors, is it widely supported?  Was this discussed in the WG?  Answering my own question, searching my local mailbox, I don't see this ever being discussed before, other than Martin questioning if it was a good idea in Mar 2016 (no response).  Please start a thread on the list to get WG opinion if it's okay for the draft to proceed as is or not.  Here's the IESG Note from RFC 6587:
>
>     IESG Note
>
>     The IESG does not recommend implementing or deploying syslog over
>     plain tcp, which is described in this document, because it lacks the
>     ability to enable strong security [RFC3365].
>
>     Implementation of the TLS transport [RFC5425] is recommended so that
>     appropriate security features are available to operators who want to
>     deploy secure syslog.  Similarly, those security features can be
>     turned off for those who do not want them.
>
>
>
Well, I believe it's clear plain TCP should not be in the YANG module.

Regards, Benoit

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