Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-07
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Tue, 19 December 2017 20:54 UTC
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 21:54:22 +0100
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
To: Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
Cc: Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com>, Berger Lou <lberger@labn.net>, NetMod WG Chairs <netmod-chairs@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores@ietf.org, NetMod WG <netmod@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-07
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:41:28PM -0800, Andy Bierman wrote: > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> wrote: > > > Hi Lou, > > > > Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > These comments are based on my Shepherd review of this document and > > > should be addressed as part of addressing any LC comments: > > > > > > 1) Considering the recent discussion on Library made me consider the > > > general case of a module that is composed entirely of operational state. > > > I think this case is subject to interpretation and therefore needs to > > > be explicitly covered. For example section 5.3 states: > > > > > > The datastore schema for <operational> MUST be a superset of the > > > combined datastore schema used in all configuration datastores except > > > that YANG nodes supported in a configuration datastore MAY be omitted > > > from <operational> if a server is not able to accurately report them. > > > > > > This could be read that a module that an operational state MUST be > > > present (but presumably empty>?) in some other DS to be present in > > > operational. I don't believe this is your intent, but it should be > > > explicitly covered for the benefit of future readers. > > > > Ok. How about we add to the paragraph above a sentence: > > > > If a module does not contain any configuration data then it MAY be > > omitted from the schema for the configuration datastores. > > I liked the old YANG library better. > It allows a client to create of a list of all the > modules/revisions/features/deviations > that will be needed to match the schema tree used by the server. > The compiler does not care if it is looking for a typedef vs. a data node. > The YANG library details help the compiler find the correct definitions. > > Consider iana-crypt-hash that has only typedefs and features. > Leaving this module out of the library can cause problems for a client. > I think this is not the intention. If a module is needed to satisfy imports, it has to be listed as part of the schema. So perhaps this is better? If a module does not contain any configuration data and it is not needed to satisfy any imports, then it MAY be omitted from the schema for the configuration datastores. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>
- [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-ietf-… Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-i… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-i… Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-i… Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-i… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-i… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-i… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-i… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-i… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-i… Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-i… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-i… Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-i… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-i… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-i… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-i… Martin Bjorklund