Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-08.txt

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From: "Joe Clarke (jclarke)" <jclarke@cisco.com>
To: Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-08.txt
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> On Dec 5, 2019, at 10:48, Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> "Joe Clarke (jclarke)" <jclarke@cisco.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 4, 2019, at 22:37, Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com> wrote:
>> 
>> v-08 is posted to address comments received from YANG doctor review and
>> additional comments from Joe.
>> The diff is:
>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-08
>> 
>> Thanks, Qin. But this isn’t actually what I had in mind. I was suggesting text targeted at
>> implementors but also warning operators along the lines of:
>> 
>> Operators should be aware that since all read-write datastores are
>> immediately reset to 
>> factor default, the device will become unreachable on the network.
> 
> s/will/may/
> 
> ( and s/factor/factory/ )
> 
> 
>> One should
>> understand how a given vendor’s device will behave after the RPC is executed.
> 
> Perhaps s/One should/It is important to/?
> 
>> Implementors SHOULD reboot the device or otherwise restart processes needed to
>> bootstrap it.
>> 
>> I realize Jürgen(?) or others had problems with calling out
>> bootstrapping, but I do think
>> some explicit advice is required so all parties are aware what the
>> impact of executing the 
>> RPC would have.
> 
> I had concerns with the previous text about bootstrapping, but I think
> that your proposed text above is fine.

Thanks for the clarification and corrections.

Joe

> 
> 
> /martin
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> -Qin
>> -----邮件原件-----
>> 发件人: I-D-Announce [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] 代表
>> internet-drafts@ietf.org
>> 发送时间: 2019年12月5日 11:36
>> 收件人: i-d-announce@ietf.org
>> 抄送: netmod@ietf.org
>> 主题: I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-08.txt
>> 
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>> This draft is a work item of the Network Modeling WG of the IETF.
>> 
>> Title : Factory Default Setting
>> Authors : Qin Wu
>> Balazs Lengyel
>> Ye Niu
>> Filename : draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-08.txt
>> Pages : 11
>> Date : 2019-12-04
>> 
>> Abstract:
>> This document defines a method to reset a server to its factory-
>> default content. The reset operation may be used, e.g., when the
>> existing configuration has major errors so re-starting the
>> configuration process from scratch is the best option.
>> 
>> A new factory-reset RPC is defined. When resetting a datastore, all
>> previous configuration settings will be lost and replaced by the
>> factory-default content.
>> 
>> A new optional "factory-default" read-only datastore is defined, that
>> contains the data that will be copied over to the running datastore
>> at reset.
>> 
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default/
>> 
>> There are also htmlized versions available at:
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-08
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-08
>> 
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-08
>> 
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the
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