Re: [netmod] Alexey Melnikov's No Objection on draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-23: (with COMMENT)

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Wed, 07 March 2018 16:26 UTC

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From: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 11:25:22 -0500
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To: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] Alexey Melnikov's No Objection on draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-23: (with COMMENT)
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On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:17 AM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> wrote:
> Hi Alexey, Warren,
>>
>> Alexey Melnikov has entered the following ballot position for
>> draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-23: No Objection
>>
>> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
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>> introductory paragraph, however.)
>>
>>
>> Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
>> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
>>
>>
>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model/
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> COMMENT:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Thank you for this document.
>>
>> I also prefer for TCP to be documented, if used in real world.
>
> I've seen this comment in Warren's comment at
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model/ballot/#warren-kumari.
> However, I can't find his ballot in email.

That's because of my cunning plan of not clicking the Send Mail button.

I'd viewed my comments as just informational / preferences and not
worth cluttering up people's mail.

> So let me reply to both of you here.
>
> This was discussed on the NETMOD mailing list. See subject "I-D Action:
> draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-19.txt"
> The fact is that RFC 6587 is now historic, implying a historic downref.
>
> I'm in favor to publish the document as it is right now, whose 00 WG doc.
> version dates from Nov 2014.

SGTM!
W

> Augmenting a YANG module, if TCP is required, is not that hard.
>
> Regards, Benoit
>>
>>
>> Some minor comments:
>>
>> 1) Please add a Normative Reference for the file: URI RFC (RFC 8089) when
>> you
>> mention it for the first time.
>>
>> 2) On page 19:
>>
>> Example: compare->equals and action->no-match means
>> messages that have a severity that is not equal to the
>> specified severity will be logged.";
>>
>> Do you mean "action->block" instead of "action->no-match"?
>>
>> 3) When logging to file: how is the file name constructed from the name
>> file:
>> URI if multiple files are preserved by the system? E.g. if the log file is
>> rotated daily and 5 last files are preserved, how does each individual
>> filename
>> look? If I understood how this is used, this needs more clarification.
>>
>> 4) Nit: on page 18, typo in "spectify"
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>



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