Re: [netmod] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-netmod-geo-location-08: (with COMMENT)

Vladimir Vassilev <vladimir@lightside-instruments.com> Thu, 20 May 2021 09:33 UTC

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To: Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org>, Murray Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-netmod-geo-location-08: (with COMMENT)
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On 20/05/2021 10.43, Christian Hopps wrote:
>
> Murray Kucherawy via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> writes:
>>
>> I support Lars' and Francesca's DISCUSS positions.
>>
>> The shepherd writeup says: "There are no known implementations known 
>> to the
>> Shepherd.  No vendors have indicated their plan to implement the 
>> specification.
>>  It was originally forwarded to support DT's Terra Stream project."  I'm
>> tempted to ask why this is slotted for Standards Track publication.
>
> It's a grouping, it's meant to be incorporated into other YANG modules 
> rather than have each module come up with their own version of a 
> geo-location object.
>
> So, it's wont be "implemented" directly by any vendor until it is 
> published and can start to be used in other module definitions. There 
> definitely is interest in this use in the netmod WG.
>
Hi,

I intend to use the grouping in our implementation. We can do that at 
the upcoming Hackathon event and validate the module with some running code.

/Vladimir