Re: [netmod] rfc6991bis: inet:host

Ladislav Lhotka <ladislav.lhotka@nic.cz> Wed, 22 July 2020 11:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [netmod] rfc6991bis: inet:host
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On 22. 07. 20 13:00, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> Tom,
> 
> my understanding is that Lada is now proposing something slightly
> different but I am not sure what exactly, hence I asked again.

Oh yes, I messed it up by mixing different things together, sorry. I
checked again the ML archive, and the message that is relevant to this
thread is this:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/netmod/PISOifrtow4oWLGW7meBBSri7nM/

The aim of that proposal was to limit the "inet:host" type to DNS names
that are reasonable as host names, i.e. eliminate values like "." or "_".

Lada

> 
> /js
> 
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 09:54:00AM +0000, tom petch wrote:
>> From: netmod <netmod-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
>> Sent: 21 July 2020 20:44
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:04:55AM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
>>> Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> writes:
>>>
>>>>   - Lada suggested to replace the inet:domain-name usage in
>>>>     the union with a new host-name definition that follows
>>>>     the NR-LDH definition in RFC 5890.
>>>>
>>>>   - Unclear which problem is fixed and how this works from a
>>>>     backwards compatibility perspective.
>>>>
>>>>   - See the thread '6991bis: host' in your private list archive
>>>>     (I can't find it in the IETF archive)
>>
>> Try the NETMOD WG list archive 21 July 2019
>>
>> Tom Petch
>>
>>>>
>>>>   - I can't tell for sure that Lada's proposal is (i) correct and (ii)
>>>>     not breaking anything
>>>>
>>>>   - Proposal: ?
>>>
>>> Maybe it is better to basically keep the existing inet:domain name for use e.g. in host names that appear in all kinds of non-DNS configuration, and leave the definition of a domain name type appropriate for use in DNS zone data etc. to DNSOP WG.
>>>
>>> So my proposal is to only modify the description accordingly, and in particular remove the comment about the use in A/AAAA/SRV resource records, because the existing type isn't really suitable for this purpose.
>>>
>>
>> Can you please send OLD NEW text? I do not really see what needs
>> changes. Note that this type definition gets tweaked everytime by IESG
>> members as well.
>>
>> /js
>>
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