Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-03.txt

nicola sambo <nicosambo@gmail.com> Wed, 23 October 2019 14:41 UTC

Return-Path: <nicosambo@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: netmod@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: netmod@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F8E120822; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 07:41:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.997
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.997 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k9B-_lobNqQZ; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 07:41:30 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-qk1-x743.google.com (mail-qk1-x743.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::743]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 354501200E6; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 07:41:30 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-qk1-x743.google.com with SMTP id f18so19372173qkm.1; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 07:41:30 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=G1otp26+eVKdEUmIjhLpgX6nx9JKrHKwQqdTVynHRVE=; b=cxeW8nBHMCd3C4rOFfQcJ72bsWK7e+9mMKXxYMyT/LH9wmTNJw4AkT1sjoBLuZDYnK HVEMZ2u2iwPGJYPYCN6IRIn8dh0bOC3jIZYR2YAhWNk/7Y7+9GxA/Y9QaguTZD98C0K1 Fl/MuTaXBZeckDPLZnM5zrAHtxw+vV4EMROR6M7HoU1zXvgE/7Xo9Ir8UlG/3YpL0zEH 4EC9iIiNgmsc5GP+cFmB7Lh6i2DLsMn32lxF/EtHrNbvxB4Dg0Ia1u0+/g6VStyke4Zp VrcUQSTxt6gfx2cVspfJohcDOWPYn2ctTCXhpiZ5rOsF6Zcw4b0RHdVEo2db2Rqmno4q HBRQ==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=G1otp26+eVKdEUmIjhLpgX6nx9JKrHKwQqdTVynHRVE=; b=Z6OBpxoqC3wCADd5yLDM3dWP1NTHH14rgW3clhiGeYIMCQf8pySJLl6qna2zeFU0F8 hW/iPd69mtfnrNm7xUyXDLfSftAKPPlKNtMSzK1+itD3MtmWhInxpDNWHAe1xZzcP3Ka 9r0C0qWAqQv3j07bSzU3zq7zeB4CM8TXJR8Lk9hLyAVTBCm44P0yGHsBGcRM8Hgy+ewu 1HEWW3GSs5ZLutK7GHcITlQTO9cNG67luQcSlRcc7RGa7NUVPFwPeXat2KL8r/F6Ouag WiATWRbtEyxduEQNekHrTqPp3gvBn7EDWu7xAZz4EDafItP0Uc4PPBNd+MUeDVQT/pOb u9yw==
X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXineNSrWf8SgvVfQ4Ab698Ytipjhqbwb9YVBGEw/0e5mdJVZEJ up9JS54KeJ7N5Zc26M1Ivb0QohN/4A3C0Sst04I=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyB080JHGuP4+fvC+HMAqB+0pVov9VUE1mxxZm8/rasCwsMywOk481TP6R5pCrFnATSxzJPoMsWNfnjtQUjfj0=
X-Received: by 2002:a37:7846:: with SMTP id t67mr8708596qkc.431.1571841689143; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 07:41:29 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <B8F9A780D330094D99AF023C5877DABAA93961DF@dggeml531-mbs.china.huawei.com>
In-Reply-To: <B8F9A780D330094D99AF023C5877DABAA93961DF@dggeml531-mbs.china.huawei.com>
From: nicola sambo <nicosambo@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 16:41:18 +0200
Message-ID: <CADqwGbd4eMvv1z9Fz+s7DiumCC2iKhHi9JTChG9jszGYfsJAmA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com>
Cc: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>, wangzitao <wangzitao@huawei.com>, NetMod WG Chairs <netmod-chairs@ietf.org>, "draft-bryskin-netconf-automation-yang@ietf.org" <draft-bryskin-netconf-automation-yang@ietf.org>, "netmod@ietf.org" <netmod@ietf.org>, "draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang@ietf.org" <draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang@ietf.org>, "draft-sambo-netmod-yang-fsm@ietf.org" <draft-sambo-netmod-yang-fsm@ietf.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000864cb2059594e9d5"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/netmod/KpN1Sk4xRU_Igg_BoUHsRub__Nc>
Subject: Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-03.txt
X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: NETMOD WG list <netmod.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/netmod>, <mailto:netmod-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/netmod/>
List-Post: <mailto:netmod@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:netmod-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod>, <mailto:netmod-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 14:41:34 -0000

Hi Qin, Rob,

we are happy to collaborate for finding a common solution. Yes, our last
contribution in the area is draft-sambo-netmod-yang-fsm-05.

Best,
Nicola

Il giorno mer 23 ott 2019 alle ore 16:31 Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com>; ha
scritto:

> Thanks Rob, just to remind draft-sambo-opsawg-ccamp-supa-ext-yang-fsm has
> been replaced by draft-sambo-netmod-yang-fsm-05 back in October 2017 and
> has been discussed twice before in the past netmod meetings.
> I am happy to work with authors of three drafts to see how to rationalize
> these common interests effort.
>
> -Qin
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Rob Wilton (rwilton) [mailto:rwilton@cisco.com]
> 发送时间: 2019年10月23日 21:32
> 收件人: Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com>;; Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>;;
> wangzitao <wangzitao@huawei.com>;
> 抄送: NetMod WG Chairs <netmod-chairs@ietf.org>;;
> draft-bryskin-netconf-automation-yang@ietf.org; netmod@ietf.org;
> draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang@ietf.org; draft-sambo-netmod-yang-fsm@ietf.org
> 主题: RE: [netmod] New Version Notification for
> draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-03.txt
>
> Hi Qin, Lou,
>
> There it also draft-sambo-opsawg-ccamp-supa-ext-yang-fsm which, unless I
> am mistaken, also seems to be targeting the same area.
>
> It seems like there is definitely interest in this area.  It would be nice
> if there could be a single standard solution, but perhaps the use cases are
> different enough that this doesn't make sense?
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: netmod <netmod-bounces@ietf.org>; On Behalf Of Qin Wu
> > Sent: 23 October 2019 14:15
> > To: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>;; wangzitao <wangzitao@huawei.com>;
> > Cc: NetMod WG Chairs <netmod-chairs@ietf.org>;; draft-bryskin-netconf-
> > automation-yang@ietf.org; netmod@ietf.org; draft-wwx-netmod-event-
> > yang@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for
> > draft-wwx-netmod-event- yang-03.txt
> >
> > Lou:
> > I am not against to harmonize with
> > draft-bryskin-netconf-automation-yang
> > and actually both have already shared a lot of commonality on
> > motivation and use cases but the model proposed in draft-wwx reduce
> > its complexity and propose a more simple model design.
> > A quick question to chair:
> > Do you think we should start from complex advanced generalized model
> > with many features which not sure can be supported, or from simple
> > generic model in which the mechanism has been generalized in previous
> > several revisions and clarify the relationship with many related
> > standardized work such as YANG Push, Event MIB.
> >
> > If clarifying the relationship with Event MIB is a concern, we could
> > remove it since Event MIB is just one of work that motivates to bring
> > this work up, in addition, hardware management model defined in
> > RFC8348 also clarify relationship with ENTITY-MIB, do you think
> > hardware management is something specific to MIB?
> >
> > If I am wrong, please correct me.
> > Regards!
> > -Qin
> > -----邮件原件-----
> > 发件人: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]
> > 发送时间: 2019年10月22日 20:38
> > 收件人: wangzitao <wangzitao@huawei.com>;
> > 抄送: netmod@ietf.org; NetMod WG Chairs <netmod-chairs@ietf.org>;; draft-
> > wwx-netmod-event-yang@ietf.org; draft-bryskin-netconf-automation-
> > yang@ietf.org
> > 主题: Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-wwx-netmod-event-
> > yang-03.txt
> >
> > Michael/Authors/WG,
> >
> > Thank you for this work.  One of the questions in looking at this
> > draft is the relationship to this draft to other individual work that
> > has been discussed in the WG,
> > notablyhttps://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bryskin-
> > netconf-automation-yang  . In looking at both drafts, I read it as
> > that the latter provides general infrastructure for
> > event-condition-actions (ECAs).  I'm less sure about your draft, in
> > reading it it too seems aimed at a general infrastructure, but it also
> > seems tailored to a specific set of ECAs that are aligned with the
> EVEN-MIB.
> >
> > What is your/the authors intent?
> >
> > If the former, perhaps it would be good for both sets of authors to
> > (at least try to) work together to come up with with a merged
> > document?  If the latter, does it make sense to adjust your draft to
> > document your use case using the more general mechanisms of the other
> draft?
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Please let me know if you think I'm misreading or missed something here.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lou
> >
> > On 10/15/2019 2:17 AM, wangzitao wrote:
> > > Dear Working Group,
> > >
> > > As you recall that we presented the "draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-02"
> > > in
> > the last NETMOD session and got a good number of supports when the
> > chair polled in the room.
> > > Recently we have a minor update on the draft based on Montreal
> > > meeting
> > discussion, adding an appendix section to introduce how to reuse the
> > "trigger-grouping", more details please review the document.
> > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-03
> > >
> > > We believe this draft is stable enough and would like to ask for WG
> > adoption.
> > >
> > > Comments and suggestion are welcome!
> > >
> > > Best Regards!
> > > -Michael(on behalf of authors)
> > >
> > > -----邮件原件-----
> > > 发件人: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org]
> > > 发送时间: 2019年10月15日 14:14
> > > 收件人: wangzitao <wangzitao@huawei.com>;; Chongfeng Xie
> > > <xiechf@ctbri.com.cn>;; Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com>;; wangzitao
> > > <wangzitao@huawei.com>;; Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com>;
> > > 主题: New Version Notification for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-03.txt
> > >
> > >
> > > A new version of I-D, draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-03.txt
> > > has been successfully submitted by Michael Wang and posted to the
> > > IETF
> > repository.
> > >
> > > Name:               draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang
> > > Revision:   03
> > > Title:              A YANG Data model for Policy based Event Management
> > > Document date:      2019-10-13
> > > Group:              Individual Submission
> > > Pages:              30
> > > URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wwx-netmod-
> > event-yang-03.txt
> > > Status:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wwx-netmod-event-
> > yang/
> > > Htmlized:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-
> > 03
> > > Htmlized:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wwx-netmod-
> > event-yang
> > > Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-wwx-netmod-
> > event-yang-03
> > >
> > > Abstract:
> > >     [RFC8328] defines a policy-based management framework that allow
> > >     definition of a data model to be used to represent high-level,
> > >     possibly network-wide policies.  This document defines an YANG data
> > >     model for the policy based event management [RFC7950].  The policy
> > >     based Event YANG provides the ability for the network management
> > >     function (within a controller, an orchestrator, or a network
> > element)
> > >     to control the configuration and monitor state change on the
> network
> > >     element and take simple and instant action when a trigger condition
> > >     on the system state is met.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at
> > tools.ietf.org.
> > >
> > > The IETF Secretariat
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > netmod mailing list
> > > netmod@ietf.org
> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
> > _______________________________________________
> > netmod mailing list
> > netmod@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
>