Re: [netmod] Proposal for minimalist full NMDA support in schema mount

Robert Wilton <> Fri, 23 February 2018 14:52 UTC

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Hi Lou,

As per my public emails on this WG alias, and also private emails, you 
must know that both Martin, I, and others have been trying (for many 
weeks) to reach a compromise.

I don't think that it is that I am unwilling to compromise, but more 
that I perceive that a different compromise solution is the right one.  
I.e. we publish a single draft that contains the model that you want now 
for pre NMDA solutions, and also a model that we think will work well in 
the post NMDA world that all of the IETF YANG models are moving to.


On 23/02/2018 14:36, Lou Berger wrote:
> Rob,
> I think we're going in circles here. We have one camp that wants to 
> replace the current module with pre 09 and is unwilling to discuss 
> compromise, and another camp that wants 08 published as is and has 
> been waiting for the working group and authors to submit aversion to 
> the IESG for publication based on the last call that completed in 
> November.
> The mail I sent that started this thread was sent with the hope of 
> finding a compromise. As you and Martin seem uninterested in 
> discussing a compromise, I not sure if it's worth pursuing this 
> thread. If I have misread your mails, and you are open to compromise 
> then we should continue this thread.
> If not and there is no interest in finding a compromise in the working 
> group and by the authors, I guess we're back to the plan of publishing 
> 08 and looking forward to protests.
> Lou
> .