Re: [netmod] Default statements and deviate add/replace

"Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com> Tue, 29 October 2019 10:38 UTC

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From: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] Default statements and deviate add/replace
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I think that I basically agree with Balazs,  the spec refers to properties rather than sub-statements.

I would say, every data node always has these properties (either because they are required or because they have a defined default value if the statement is not present):
               config, mandatory, type
lists and leaf-lists also always have these properties (because they have default values if the statement is not present):
               max-elements, min-elements

So, I think that config, mandatory, type, max-elements, min-elements cannot be added or deleted, only replaced, because they always exist.

default, must, unique, units are all optional, and hence may be added, replaced, or deleted.

If we reach agreement, then I think that the text could also be clarified in YANG Next.

Thanks,
Rob


From: netmod <netmod-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Balázs Lengyel
Sent: 24 October 2019 14:45
To: Kent Watsen <kent@watsen.net>
Cc: Edvardas Lasauskas <edvardas.lasauskas@ericsson.com>om>; Mark Hollmann <mark.hollmann@ericsson.com>om>; netmod@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [netmod] Default statements and deviate add/replace

Hello Kent,
As IMO practically all tools are misbehaving I would like a confirmation that my interpretation of the differences between deviate add and deviate replace are correct.  After that I will start reporting the issues to the tools.
Regards Balazs

From: Kent Watsen <kent@watsen.net<mailto:kent@watsen.net>>
Sent: 2019. október 22., kedd 16:37
To: Balázs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com<mailto:balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>>
Cc: netmod@ietf.org<mailto:netmod@ietf.org>; Mark Hollmann <mark.hollmann@ericsson.com<mailto:mark.hollmann@ericsson.com>>; Edvardas Lasauskas <edvardas.lasauskas@ericsson.com<mailto:edvardas.lasauskas@ericsson.com>>
Subject: Re: [netmod] Default statements and deviate add/replace

Hi Balazs,

Is this for the NETMOD list, or should bugs be filed against the misbehaving tools?

Kent


On Oct 22, 2019, at 6:56 AM, Balázs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:balazs.lengyel=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:

Hello,
I tried testing the following statements:

  deviation /nacm:nacm/nacm:enable-nacm {
    deviate add {
      config false;     } }

  deviation /nacm:nacm/nacm:rule-list {
    deviate add {
      min-elements 1;     }  }

In nacm both the config and the min-elements are absent, so their default meaning is true. I actually tried both add and replace in deviate.
I got rather confusing results whether the add/replace variant of deviate should be accepted or rejected because the property already exists or does not yet exist.

Pyang 2.0.2 locally:
Config=false                       add-NOK              replace-OK
Min-elements=1              add-OK                 replace-NOK

YANG-Validator  pyang 2.0 & confdc
Config=false                       add-OK                 replace-OK
Min-elements=1              add-OK                 replace-NOK

YANG-Validator yanglint
Config=false                       add-OK                 replace-OK
Min-elements=1              add-OK                 replace-OK

IMHO the tools should always check the property, so even if the statement is not present the properties config=false and min-elements=0 ARE present. So add should be rejected and replace accepted.

Regards Balazs

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