Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements
"t.petch" <ietfc@btconnect.com> Tue, 07 November 2017 13:12 UTC
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Subject: Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements
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---- Original Message ----- From: "Juergen Schoenwaelder" <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> To: "Martin Bjorklund" <mbj@tail-f.com> Cc: <netmod@ietf.org> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 2:01 PM > On Mon, Nov 06, 2017 at 02:19:24PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > > Trying to summarize this issue. > > > > The problem is which datastore is used to: > > > > 1a. evaluate action ancestor nodes > > 1b. evaluate action input/output parameter leafref, > > instance-identifier, must, when > > 2. evaluate rpc input/output parameter leafref, > > instance-identifier, must, when > > > > (Note that the side effects of an action/rpc is not part of this > > issue) > > > > I think it would be very weird if 1a and 1b were treated differently, > > so I just label them as 1 below. > > > > Possible solutions: > > > > A. Always use <operational> for 1 and 2. > > > > (This is what the current nmda draft says). > > > > B. Let the client specify the datastore for 1, and use <operational> > > for 2. > > > > (Note that this is trivial in RESTCONF (since the datastore is > > part of the URL), but would require a new parameter for NETCONF > > (or a new <action2>). > > > > C. Let the client specify the datastore for 1 and 2. > > > > This would require a new generic parameter for how RPCs are > > invoked in both NETCONF and RESTCONF. > > > > D. Like B, but let the description of the "rpc" statement optionally > > override this. > > > > > > I prefer B and then D. > > I prefer A for now and I believe any of the other options may be > considered in the future (when we can provide proper support of YANG > and the protocols). I also believe that A covers a large number of > real-world use cases. I prefer A. I think it is the simplest and the one least likely to have consequences that were not anticipated. You could see this discussion as being one of unanticipated consequences so I want the least change to solve the problem, while thinking about what B (or C or D, roughly the order of increasing uncertainty) really involves. Tom Petch > /js > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/> > > _______________________________________________ > netmod mailing list > netmod@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
- [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Martin Bjorklund
- [netmod] Action and RPC statements [was Re: augme… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] augment YANG 1.0 with YANG 1.1 OK? Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements [was Re: a… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements [was Re: a… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements [was Re: a… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Alexander Clemm
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Phil Shafer
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Alexander Clemm
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Alexander Clemm
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Phil Shafer
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Juergen Schoenwaelder
- [netmod] Reset tags RPC [was Re: Action and RPC s… Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] Action and RPC statements t.petch