Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-08.txt
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From: "Joe Clarke (jclarke)" <jclarke@cisco.com>
To: Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com>
CC: Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com>, "netmod@ietf.org" <netmod@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-08.txt
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> On Dec 6, 2019, at 22:41, Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com> wrote: > > Thanks Martin and Joe for clarification and suggested changes. I will implement them in v-09. Thanks, Qin. Joe > > -Qin > -----邮件原件----- > 发件人: Joe Clarke (jclarke) [mailto:jclarke@cisco.com] > 发送时间: 2019年12月5日 23:52 > 收件人: Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> > 抄送: Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com>; netmod@ietf.org > 主题: Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-08.txt > > > >> On Dec 5, 2019, at 10:48, Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> "Joe Clarke (jclarke)" <jclarke@cisco.com> wrote: >>> On Dec 4, 2019, at 22:37, Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com> wrote: >>> >>> v-08 is posted to address comments received from YANG doctor review >>> and additional comments from Joe. >>> The diff is: >>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-0 >>> 8 >>> >>> Thanks, Qin. But this isn’t actually what I had in mind. I was >>> suggesting text targeted at implementors but also warning operators along the lines of: >>> >>> Operators should be aware that since all read-write datastores are >>> immediately reset to factor default, the device will become >>> unreachable on the network. >> >> s/will/may/ >> >> ( and s/factor/factory/ ) >> >> >>> One should >>> understand how a given vendor’s device will behave after the RPC is executed. >> >> Perhaps s/One should/It is important to/? >> >>> Implementors SHOULD reboot the device or otherwise restart processes >>> needed to bootstrap it. >>> >>> I realize Jürgen(?) or others had problems with calling out >>> bootstrapping, but I do think some explicit advice is required so all >>> parties are aware what the impact of executing the RPC would have. >> >> I had concerns with the previous text about bootstrapping, but I think >> that your proposed text above is fine. > > Thanks for the clarification and corrections. > > Joe > >> >> >> /martin >> >> >> >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> -Qin >>> -----邮件原件----- >>> 发件人: I-D-Announce [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 >>> internet-drafts@ietf.org >>> 发送时间: 2019年12月5日 11:36 >>> 收件人: i-d-announce@ietf.org >>> 抄送: netmod@ietf.org >>> 主题: I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-08.txt >>> >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. >>> This draft is a work item of the Network Modeling WG of the IETF. >>> >>> Title : Factory Default Setting >>> Authors : Qin Wu >>> Balazs Lengyel >>> Ye Niu >>> Filename : draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-08.txt >>> Pages : 11 >>> Date : 2019-12-04 >>> >>> Abstract: >>> This document defines a method to reset a server to its factory- >>> default content. The reset operation may be used, e.g., when the >>> existing configuration has major errors so re-starting the >>> configuration process from scratch is the best option. >>> >>> A new factory-reset RPC is defined. When resetting a datastore, all >>> previous configuration settings will be lost and replaced by the >>> factory-default content. >>> >>> A new optional "factory-default" read-only datastore is defined, that >>> contains the data that will be copied over to the running datastore >>> at reset. >>> >>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default/ >>> >>> There are also htmlized versions available at: >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-08 >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netmod-factory-defau >>> lt-08 >>> >>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-0 >>> 8 >>> >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>> >>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> I-D-Announce mailing list >>> I-D-Announce@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >>> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or >>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt >>> _______________________________________________ >>> netmod mailing list >>> netmod@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod >>> >
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- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Joe Clarke (jclarke)
- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Joe Clarke (jclarke)
- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factor… Joe Clarke (jclarke)