Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA
Robert Wilton <rwilton@cisco.com> Tue, 05 December 2017 10:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA
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On 04/12/2017 17:47, Andy Bierman wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz > <mailto:lhotka@nic.cz>> wrote: > > On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 17:34 +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz <mailto:lhotka@nic.cz>> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > if we have > > > > > > augment "/target/node" { > > > when "..."; > > > ... > > > } > > > > > > is the "when" expression supposed to be evaluated separately > in each > > > > datastore, > > > and the augment applied only in those datastores where the > result is true? > > > > Yes. > > But then it cannot be guaranteed that the schema for <operational> > is a superset > of the schema of configuration datastores - the when expression > can evaluate to > false in <operational> but true in <intended>. > > > > I see your point now. > The server has to evaluate the when-stmts in operational. I think that this is probably down to implementation, but I don't think that this is necessarily required. A server is meant to conform to 'when' statements in <operational> (e.g. if the system is in a normal steady state), but they are allowed to be violated, and I'm not expecting that a server would evaluate them (except perhaps to discover implementation bugs). Further, if violations of when statements in <operational> are detected then I don't think that there is anything that the server can reasonable do. > Even though the schema trees are the same, the client has a complex > task comparing > <intended> to <operational>. I don't get why this isn't just a simple diff between the <intended> and <operational> data trees. What is causing the complexity? Thanks, Rob > However it is no different than the existing > complexity comparing <candidate> to <running>. > > Lada > > > Andy > > > > > > RFC 7950 says in sec. 7.21.5 that the context node for XPath > evaluation is > > > > "the > > > augment's target node in the data tree", but with NMDA we have > multiple data > > > trees, hence multiple target nodes. > > > > We had multiple datastores even before NMDA. The when expression > > could be true in candidate but false in running. > > > > /martin > -- > Ladislav Lhotka > Head, CZ.NIC Labs > PGP Key ID: 0xB8F92B08A9F76C67 > > _______________________________________________ > netmod mailing list > netmod@ietf.org <mailto:netmod@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod > <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > netmod mailing list > netmod@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
- [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Alex Campbell
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka