Re: [netmod] IETF91 NETMOD agenda ?
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From: Dean Bogdanovic <deanb@juniper.net>
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Balazs, Why would be hard for anyone to look through the list, based on the title decide what is interesting, look up the draft online and read the introduction chapter? Knowing our capability to end things on time, highly doubt that we could go through 70 drafts in 15 minutes. Dean On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Balazs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com<mailto:balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>> wrote: "And what do you hope to achieve with this? You'll hear 1 or 2 sentence per draft and probably will not get more info." Yes, thats exactly what I would like, an overview of the modeling work in YANG. Note everyone is up to date with what models are out there. It also helps motivate people to take YANG more seriously. Actually a written list with the same information would be nearly as good. regards Balazs On 2014-11-05 17:13, Dean Bogdanovic wrote: On Nov 5, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Balazs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com><mailto:balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com> wrote: Hello, A very short overview would be good. All drafts by workgroup in 15 minutes. regards Balazs And what do you hope to achieve with this? You'll hear 1 or 2 sentence per draft and probably will not get more info. It would be much more efficient to block some time at the end of the meeting on Friday and setup Q&A with authors. Then for people who have interest in a particular draft can get answers and if needed continue conversation after the meeting. Dean On 2014-11-05 00:20, Andy Bierman wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com><mailto:bclaise@cisco.com> wrote: Mahesh, Benoit, I was going to give a quick update on the BFD YANG model, which is being presented/discussed in its own WG. I wonder which ideal outcome you want a presentation in the NETMOD WG? Here's the list of drafts that have normative or unclassified references to YANG: draft-vanderstok-core-comi-05 2014-10-27 Active draft-shi-alto-yang-json-00 2014-10-27 Active draft-shi-alto-yang-model-00 2014-10-27 Active draft-netmod-clemm-datastore-push-00 2014-10-27 Active draft-wildes-netmod-syslog-model-05 2014-10-27 Active draft-zhang-nvo3-yang-active-active-cfg-00 2014-10-27 Active draft-zaalouk-supa-configuration-model-01 2014-10-27 Active draft-wang-lime-rpc-yang-oam-management-00 2014-10-27 Active draft-vergara-flexigrid-yang-00 2014-10-27 Active draft-gandhi-mpls-te-yang-model-01 2014-10-27 Active draft-txh-opsawg-lime-gap-analysis-01 2014-10-27 Active draft-zheng-netmod-xmi-yang-translation-00 2014-10-27 Active draft-chen-i2rs-mpls-ldp-info-model-00 2014-10-27 Active draft-tripathy-cloud-sla-yang-model-00 2014-10-27 Active draft-clemm-i2rs-yang-l3-topo-00 2014-10-27 Active draft-contreras-supa-yang-network-topo-01 2014-10-27 Active draft-wang-yang-bfd-oam-00 2014-10-27 Active draft-ietf-netconf-server-model-04 2014-10-26 Active draft-ietf-isis-yang-isis-cfg-01 2014-10-26 Active draft-shen-l2tpext-l2tpv3-yang-model-00 2014-10-26 Active draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg-16 2014-10-26 Active draft-shaikh-idr-bgp-model-00 2014-10-26 Active draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-03 2014-10-25 Active draft-pkd-pce-pcep-yang-01 2014-10-25 Active draft-sarikaya-dmm-for-wifi-01 2014-10-24 Active draft-voit-netmod-peer-mount-requirements-01 2014-10-24 Active draft-shi-model-json-msg-yang-00 2014-10-24 Active draft-liu-pim-igmp-mld-yang-00 2014-10-23 Active draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-01 2014-10-23 Active draft-liu-pim-yang-00 2014-10-23 Active draft-asechoud-netmod-diffserv-model-00 2014-10-22 Active draft-dong-i2rs-l2-network-topology-00 2014-10-21 Active draft-bierman-netconf-efficiency-extensions-02 2014-10-21 Active draft-zhang-nvo3-yang-cfg-00 2014-10-21 Active draft-sun-softwire-yang-00 2014-10-20 Active draft-yeung-netmod-ospf-02 2014-10-14 Active draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-01 2014-10-13 Active draft-clemm-i2rs-yang-network-topo-01 2014-10-10 Active draft-ietf-netconf-call-home-01 2014-10-10 Active draft-bogdanovic-netmod-acl-model-02 2014-10-08 Active draft-clemm-netmod-mount-02 2014-10-07 Active draft-zhdankin-netmod-bgp-cfg-01 2014-10-02 Active draft-wang-i2rs-ospf-dm-00 2014-09-26 Active draft-bhuvan-bmwg-of-controller-benchmarking-01 2014-09-25 Active draft-zhang-mpls-tp-yang-oam-00 2014-09-25 Active draft-bierman-netmod-yang-conformance-04 2014-09-24 Active draft-ietf-netmod-snmp-cfg-08 2014-09-18 In IESG processing - ID Tracker state <RFC Ed Queue> draft-frank-netconf-conformance-00 2014-09-16 Active draft-haas-i2rs-netmod-netconf-requirements-00 2014-09-12 Active draft-lhotka-netmod-yang-metadata-00 2014-09-11 Active draft-schoenw-lmap-yang-01 2014-09-02 Active draft-zhuang-l2vpn-yang-cfg-00 2014-08-24 Active draft-zhuang-l2vpn-evpn-yang-cfg-00 2014-08-16 Active draft-chen-mpls-ldp-yang-cfg-00 2014-08-15 Active draft-chen-mpls-te-yang-cfg-00 2014-08-15 Active draft-zhuang-l3vpn-yang-cfg-00 2014-08-15 Active draft-scharf-alto-yang-00 2014-07-04 Active draft-yang-netmod-location-00 2014-07-04 Active draft-fang-l3vpn-virtual-pe-05 2014-07-04 Active draft-mekking-dnsop-kasp-00 2014-07-04 Active draft-xjz-opsawg-nfvmodel-00 2014-07-04 Active draft-liu-netmod-yang-abstract-topo-00 2014-07-03 Active draft-ietf-netconf-yang-patch-01 2014-07-03 Active draft-zheng-netmod-integrate-operations-00 2014-07-02 Active draft-liu-netconf-multi-instances-00 2014-07-02 Active draft-litkowski-isis-yang-isis-cfg-01 2014-06-27 Active draft-litkowski-netmod-isis-cfg-00 2014-06-17 Active draft-lonvick-private-tax-08 2014-06-09 Active draft-tp-i2rs-yang-00 2014-05-08 Active That could be a lot of updates... I believe we should focus on the YANG models that don't have an existing WG. I would prefer to spend all the meeting time trying to discuss open issues in chartered items. I don't see why the NETMOD WG needs to spend time on status reports for any unchartered work. I don't agree that NETMOD WG should be the home of SYSLOG or any other protocol specific data models. IMO all those type of drafts should try to find a home in a protocol WG with the right experts. Andy Reminder: A good avenue for any YANG models is http://www.ietf.org/meeting/91/tutorials/yang-session.html Regards, Benoit On Tue Nov 04 2014 at 8:40:55 AM Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com><mailto:bclaise@cisco.com> wrote: Mahesh, Not sure what exactly you want to present but let me draw your attention that the routing-related modules should be taken care of in their respective WG. See http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtg-yang-coord/current/msg00094.html Regards, Benoit Tom, I am giving an update on the BFD YANG model in the BFD WG. I can give a quick update (~1-2min) in NETMOD if such an update is desired. Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com<mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com> On Oct 23, 2014, at 1:43 PM, "Thomas D. Nadeau" <tnadeau@lucidvision.com><mailto:tnadeau@lucidvision.com> wrote: We have plenty of runway in the agenda right now so I will put it down as two items. We reserved two slots because I feel its important to encourage discussion during the face2face meetings so insofar as I can, I want to give you enough runway to discuss this in detail. --Tom On Oct 23, 2014:12:13 PM, at 12:13 PM, Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz><mailto:lhotka@nic.cz> wrote: Hi, apart from the two WG items draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg-16 (to be submitted) and draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-01, I’d like to discuss the draft and draft-lhotka-netmod-yang-metadata-00. I think 5 minutes would be enough for the latter, I could even do it together with yang-json. Thanks, Lada On 23 Oct 2014, at 18:02, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com><mailto:andy@yumaworks.com> wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Thomas D. Nadeau <tnadeau@lucidvision.com><mailto:tnadeau@lucidvision.com> wrote: Not yet. Please propose topics. I would like 15 min. to discuss YANG conformance issues, specified in this draft: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-bierman-netmod-yang-conformance-04.txt These issues may get resolved in the NETCONF YANG 1.1 virtual interim meeting next week. If not, this topic should be discussed at the IETF meeting. —Tom Andy On Oct 21, 2014:5:32 PM, at 5:32 PM, Sterne, Jason (Jason) <jason.sterne@alcatel-lucent.com><mailto:jason.sterne@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote: Hi all, Is there a preliminary agenda for the two NETMOD sessions at IETF91 ? Some thought about topics being split between the 1st (longer) and 2nd (shorter) sessions ? 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