Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-model-update-02
Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> Thu, 16 November 2017 02:10 UTC
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Subject: Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-model-update-02
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Randy Presuhn <randy_presuhn@alumni.stanford.edu> writes: > Hi - > > On 11/15/2017 2:02 AM, Balazs Lengyel wrote: >> While a server may correctly support multiple versions, the human >> operator on the CLI has a 99% chance of mixing up which version he is >> using. Humans will not check every type and leaf to check that they >> remember the little differences between model versions. It is a recipe >> for human mistakes. According to some statistics 50% of downtime is >> caused by human errors, so we should not provide the operator with a gun >> to shoot himself. Ericsson has a rule never to have multiple versions of >> the same module on a network node. > > Does this mean that they require all line cards in a chassis to have > exactly the same firmware revision level? If so, when a card with a > newer firmware revision level is swapped in, does that require all other > cards of the same type in that chassis to also be replaced concurrently? > Sounds like even a fairly routine/minor update/repair would effectively > result in a system outage. To be fair, there is no good solution to this in the current state of affairs either. The limiting factor is the document-oriented nature of YANG. It is a good use case for schema mount though. Lada > > Randy > > _______________________________________________ > netmod mailing list > netmod@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod -- Ladislav Lhotka Head, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: 0xB8F92B08A9F76C67
- [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-mode… Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Joe Clarke
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Joe Clarke
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Joe Clarke
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Joe Clarke
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Ladislav Lhotka
- [netmod] Obsolete and deprecated in RFC 7950 Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Joe Clarke
- Re: [netmod] Comment on draft-clacla-netmod-yang-… Ladislav Lhotka