Re: [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18: (with COMMENT)
Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Wed, 07 March 2018 21:57 UTC
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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 13:56:22 -0800
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Subject: Re: [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18: (with COMMENT)
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On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote: > >> Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for >> draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-18: No Objection >> >> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all >> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this >> introductory paragraph, however.) >> >> >> Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html >> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. >> >> >> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis/ >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> COMMENT: >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis.txt:500 >> normative, if the module itself is considered normative, and not an >> example module or example YANG fragment. The use of keywords defined >> in [RFC2119] apply to YANG description statements in normative >> I think you probably want to rewrite this as: >> >> "Note that if the module itself is considered normative and not an example >> module or example YANG fragment, then all YANG statements..." >> >> > OK > > > >> o Prefixes are never allowed for built in data types and YANG >> keywords. >> I'm not sure I understand what this means. Is the idea that I can't use >> "example-import" somewhere? >> >> > > The external keyword "example:import" is not the same as the YANG keyword > "import" > YANG keywords are not allowed to have prefixes. > > > > >> character MAY be used if the identifier represents a well-known value >> that uses these characters. >> Is this text saying that only characters in these two subsets are allowed >> and >> therefore, for instance "." is forbidden >> > > > This text is suggesting the characters that SHOULD be used. > The dot and dash chars are not included. The text specifies which > characters are included. > I'm sorry, I am still confused. Here's the original text: Identifiers SHOULD follow a consistent naming pattern throughout the module. Only lower-case letters, numbers, and dashes SHOULD be used in identifier names. Upper-case characters and the underscore character MAY be used if the identifier represents a well-known value that uses these characters. There are other characters that are not in either of these sets. Are you saying that they can't be used under any conditions? -Ekr > > >> >> It is RECOMMENDED that only valid YANG modules be included in >> documents, whether or not they are published yet. This allows: >> For clarify, I assume you mean "the modules are published yet" >> >> > OK > > >> The NETCONF Access Control Model (NACM) [I-D.ietf-netconf-rfc6536bis] >> does not support parameter access control for RPC operations. The >> user is given permission (or not) to invoke the RPC operation with >> This might be slightly clearer if you said "parameter-based access >> control" >> >> >> > OK > > Andy > > >
- [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ie… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draf… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draf… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draf… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draf… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draf… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draf… Eric Rescorla