Re: [netmod] 'status' statement needed on every node

Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> Wed, 06 September 2017 11:31 UTC

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Juergen Schoenwaelder píše v St 06. 09. 2017 v 13:10 +0200:
> On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 10:34:33AM +0100, Robert Wilton wrote:
> 
> > I would prefer if it status was inherited (as an errata to 6020, 7950).
> 
> Erratas are not a tool to change a specification. You have to write
> and RFC that updates 6020 and 7950 in order to change what these RFCs
> say. This requires full WG / IETF consensus since the change affects
> implementations.

A current node with a deprecated ancestor doesn't make sense, so it looks like
an omission. IMO, a technical erratum is then appropriate.

Regarding the documentation needs, 6087bis could recommend not to rely
completely on the inheritance of deprecated status, and put it to other places
for documentation purposes (using common sense).

Lada 

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