Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data-01.txt

Robert Wilton <rwilton@cisco.com> Tue, 26 June 2018 15:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: [netmod] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data-01.txt
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On 26/06/2018 16:44, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 05:31:27PM +0200, Balazs Lengyel wrote:
>> Hello Juergen,
>>
>> Sorry the wording was misleading. I want these capabilities both as state
>> data AND as instance-data-files, because
>> there is a need to know this information before you ever see the real
>> network node. How about the following?
>>
>> "YANG servers SHOULD document server capabilities that are available via Netconf/Restconf (as YANG defined data) also using instance-data-files."
>>
> I am against this. I think we should standardize the format and not
> how the format is used. And it remains unclear why this would be a
> SHOULD or how one implements this SHOULD and in which cases one can
> ignore it. Again, I do not like to mix specification of mechanisms
> with the specification of policies how mechanisms are to be used.
+1.

I think that the draft should just give examples of how it may be used, 
probably in an appendix.  Or if we want to standardize capabilities then 
that should be a separate draft that depends on this one.

Thanks,
Rob

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