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Re: [netmod] document organization

Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> Wed, 15 November 2017 06:24 UTC

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On Wed, 2017-11-15 at 14:23 +0800, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> regarding my proposed reorganization of documents: I strongly disagree with
> Martin's comment on jabber that it would be a mere split of the contents into
> two documents. It is certainly not true because
> 
> - we could get rid of the use-schema/inline choice in schema-mounts data: the
> inline case needs to state data in the parent tree at all

Sorry, I meant "no state data" here.

Lada

> 
> - there are many CLRs that are relevant only to one of the methods, so have to
> distinguish the cases in the text; for example, parent-references don't apply to
> "inline"
> 
> - (most important for me) the two methods are really two different mechanisms,
> and the "inline" method invites various instance-related considerations whereas
> "use-schema" doesn't; it's been my experience that people keep confusing schema
> construction and instance data mounting.
> 
> Lada
>    
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Ladislav Lhotka
Head, CZ.NIC Labs
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