Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 (6855)
Jürgen Schönwälder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Tue, 01 March 2022 16:26 UTC
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Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2022 17:26:15 +0100
From: Jürgen Schönwälder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 (6855)
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On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 03:42:34PM +0000, SADOVNIKOV, ALEXEI wrote: > > I continue to doubt if this optimization continues to have value in presence of JSON processing, where such optimization is not possible. I am expecting an implementation these days to implement both XML and JSON, and then it either implements something which can deal with unordered for both, or have two different implementations one of which is optimized. > If you want to process data in a streaming fashion, you simply have to buffer data until you have the keys of list elements. The XML encoding rules kind of force efficient behaviour, the JSON encoding rules do not. However, if you have control over your JSON serializer, it may still make sense to send the list keys early. /js -- Jürgen Schönwälder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <https://www.jacobs-university.de/>
- [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 (685… RFC Errata System
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Randy Presuhn
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … SADOVNIKOV, ALEXEI
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … SADOVNIKOV, ALEXEI
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … SADOVNIKOV, ALEXEI
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Martin Björklund
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … SADOVNIKOV, ALEXEI
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … SADOVNIKOV, ALEXEI
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Jürgen Schönwälder
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … SADOVNIKOV, ALEXEI
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Martin Björklund
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Jernej Tuljak
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … SADOVNIKOV, ALEXEI
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Jürgen Schönwälder
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7950 … Andy Bierman