Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll - instance-data
Robert Wilton <rwilton@cisco.com> Tue, 09 October 2018 15:23 UTC
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Subject: Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll - instance-data
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I would expect that there are many other alternative uses of YANG instance data. Some possible alternatives that I can think of: - Storing the configuration of a device at some point in time to a file, e.g. for archive or audit purposes. - Storing diagnostics data, if the format of the data was defined as YANG data models. Here I could imagine the data potentially being stored in a compressed tar file that could be taken off the device. - Allowing YANG instance data to potentially be carried within other IPC message formats. - Perhaps file based default instance data used as part of a templating solution. - File based factory defaults. Thanks, Rob On 09/10/2018 13:15, Balázs Lengyel wrote: > Hello Martin, > > I agree that this document shall be about defining the file format, > and server capabilities shall only be a use-case.) > > I already took out a lot of text, that explicitly recommended using > instance data for documenting capabilities. Server capabilities are > only mentioned in the introduction chapter. > As you wrote: There is no _normative_ specification of how a server > would document its capabilities, because this is > what the WG requested, so I removed it. > > I see that I forgot to change the title and the introduction can be > reworded to make > it more clear that documenting server capabilities is just a use-case. > (I still see it as the primary use-case for instance data.) > > If I promise to change the title and clarify the introduction can you > support adoption? > > regards Balazs > > On 2018. 10. 09. 12:58, Martin Bjorklund wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I still think that this draft should either be split into two, one for >> specifiying the generic file format (ok with examples), and one for >> "Documenting Server Capabilities", or the document should just be >> about the file format (+ *examples*). >> >> [The current document mixes the two; it's a bit as if we had "The >> YANG language and a model for interfaces" as one doc...] >> >> It is clear that the document specifies a file format for YANG >> instance data, which is good. But it is not clear if the document >> intends to specify how a server should document its capabilities. >> >> The Introduction mainly talks about why it is important to document >> server capabilities. But then AFAICT there is no normative >> specification of how a server would document its capabilities. >> >> >> /martin >> >> >> Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> This is start of a two week poll on making >>> draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data-04 a working group >>> document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or >>> "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reservations >>> with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments >>> you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. >>> >>> The poll ends Oct 22. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Lou (and co-chairs) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> netmod mailing list >>> netmod@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> netmod mailing list >> netmod@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> netmod mailing list >> netmod@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
- [netmod] WG adoption poll Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll Alexander Clemm
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll Xufeng Liu
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll Tianran Zhou
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll Qin Wu
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll - draft-lengyel-net… Balázs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll - instance-data Balázs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll Joe Clarke
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll - instance-data Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll - instance-data Balázs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll - instance-data Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll Susan Hares
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll - instance-data Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll - instance-data Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll - instance-data Balazs Lengyel
- [netmod] Server Capabilities [was: Re: WG adoptio… Balázs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll (draft-lengyel-netm… Lou Berger