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Wed, 10 Feb 2021 11:24:29 +0000 From: tom petch To: Kent Watsen , Juergen Schoenwaelder CC: "netmod@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [netmod] MD5 in ianach ex-RFC7317 Thread-Index: AQHW/t6Mi+fY5qf6xk+Z/p2uciqWmqpQDh4AgAAAyRiAAAqfAIAAF1AAgAEPGgk= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 11:24:29 +0000 Message-ID: References: <0100017787c260d9-55bdd1ae-c12b-4cb6-87b4-94e95951fe36-000000@email.amazonses.com> <0100017787e7c265-3993cc0c-a9c5-4072-b4bc-abba6fb7f7db-000000@email.amazonses.com>, <20210209191054.j4ggkl3lvt5c566o@anna.jacobs.jacobs-university.de> In-Reply-To: <20210209191054.j4ggkl3lvt5c566o@anna.jacobs.jacobs-university.de> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: watsen.net; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;watsen.net; dmarc=none action=none header.from=btconnect.com; x-originating-ip: [86.146.121.140] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: c99967f3-32cf-4c94-3fcf-08d8cdb66eb4 x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: AS8PR07MB7063: x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:10000; 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the registry is expert review and we are doing a chang= e that comes under permitted changes for a YANG module, ie a status change.= =0A= >=0A= > My understanding is that a publication of a draft altering an IANA regist= ry will trigger an =93expert review=94, if that registry was created with t= he update-policy set that way. The draft itself doesn=92t request an expert= review, the expert review happens in the background. I=92m not familiar wi= th this being done without an I-D, in order to show WG consensus.=0A= >=0A= =0A= My understanding is that IANA reviews all documents during the=0A= publication process and while performing this review they will notice=0A= that something is requested to be added/changed in a registry that=0A= requires expert review and then they will go and run the procedure.=0A= =0A= My understanding is this is _one_ way to make a request to IANA but=0A= not the only way to make a request to IANA.=0A= =0A= The more interesting bit is what IANA has to say about this registry:=0A= =0A= iana-crypt-hash YANG Module RFC 7317=0A= Expert Review (Expert: Unassigned)=0A= =0A= Perhaps we should focus more on finding a volunteer willing to take=0A= the role of the Designated Expert...=0A= =0A= =0A= That is several steps ahead of us and, as and when it arises, that is the j= ob of the IESG, not us. =0A= =0A= The first task, for us or for the NTP WG (who want it to happen) or ... is = to reach a consensus on whether or not the module is fit for purpose, or wh= ether it needs updating.=0A= =0A= Tom Petch=0A= =0A= /js=0A= =0A= --=0A= Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH=0A= Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany=0A= Fax: +49 421 200 3103 =0A= =0A= _______________________________________________=0A= netmod mailing list=0A= netmod@ietf.org=0A= https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod=0A=