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This is a neat draft.   Reminds me of when I worked on the Virtual =
Reality and
real-time simulations.    I once wrote a class to convert locations, =
vectors, and
orientations to and from WGS84 geocentric coordinate space and =
topocentric
coordinate space systems.   I was fresh out of college with a Math =
degree, so
of course they gave it to the new guy (me) to figure out  ;)

Anyway, while WGS84 appears to still be applicable, it looks like a lot =
of other
standards work has occurred since.   I'd have to dig into it to provide =
a deeper
comment.   =46rom a gap-perspective, it seems that this module covers =
locations,
but not vectors or orientations (intentional?) Note: "heading" defines a =
value in
just a single dimension, so doesn't work for VR.   =46rom an =
add-perspective, I'm
surprised to see "speed" included here, at least we always had 1st (and =
2nd)
order temporal information defined elsewhere.

Kent // contributor


> On Feb 27, 2019, at 9:39 PM, Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org> =
wrote:
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> FYI.
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>> Begin forwarded message:
>>=20
>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>
>> Subject: I-D Action: draft-chopps-netmod-geo-location-00.txt
>> Date: February 26, 2019 at 3:59:23 PM EST
>> To: <i-d-announce@ietf.org <mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org>>
>> Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>
>>=20
>>=20
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts =
directories.
>>=20
>>=20
>>        Title           : YANG Geo Location
>>        Author          : Christian Hopps
>> 	Filename        : draft-chopps-netmod-geo-location-00.txt
>> 	Pages           : 17
>> 	Date            : 2019-02-26
>>=20
>> Abstract:
>>   This document defines a generic geographical location object YANG
>>   grouping.  The geographical location grouping is intended to be =
used
>>   in YANG models for specifying a location on or in reference to the
>>   Earth or any other astronomical object.
>>=20
>>=20
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chopps-netmod-geo-location/ =
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chopps-netmod-geo-location/>
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>> There are also htmlized versions available at:
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chopps-netmod-geo-location-00
>> =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-chopps-netmod-geo-location-00
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">This =
is a neat draft. &nbsp; Reminds me of when I worked on the Virtual =
Reality and<div class=3D"">real-time simulations. &nbsp; &nbsp;I once =
wrote a class to convert locations, vectors, and</div><div =
class=3D"">orientations&nbsp;to and from WGS84 geocentric coordinate =
space and topocentric</div><div class=3D"">coordinate space systems. =
&nbsp; I was fresh out of college with a Math degree, so</div><div =
class=3D"">of course they gave it to the new guy (me) to figure out =
&nbsp;;)</div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Anyway, while WGS84 appears to still be applicable, it looks =
like a lot of other</div><div class=3D"">standards work has occurred =
since. &nbsp; I'd have to dig into it to provide a deeper</div><div =
class=3D"">comment. &nbsp; =46rom a gap-perspective, it seems that this =
module covers locations,</div><div class=3D"">but not vectors or =
orientations (intentional?) Note: "heading" defines a value in</div><div =
class=3D"">just a single dimension, so doesn't work for VR. &nbsp; =46rom =
an add-perspective, I'm</div><div class=3D"">surprised to see "speed" =
included here, at least we always had 1st (and 2nd)</div><div =
class=3D"">order temporal information defined elsewhere.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Kent // =
contributor</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Feb =
27, 2019, at 9:39 PM, Christian Hopps &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:chopps@chopps.org" class=3D"">chopps@chopps.org</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">FYI.<br class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">Begin forwarded message:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span=
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Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From: </b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
-webkit-system-font, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family: =
-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b=
 class=3D"">I-D Action: draft-chopps-netmod-geo-location-00.txt</b><br =
class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, =
Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Date: </b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">February 26, 2019 at 3:59:23 PM EST<br =
class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, =
Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">To: </b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">i-d-announce@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br class=3D""></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
-webkit-system-font, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Reply-To: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family: =
-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><a=
 href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a><br class=3D""></span></div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D"">A New =
Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts =
directories.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Title =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: YANG Geo =
Location<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Author =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: Christian =
Hopps<br class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>Filename =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: =
draft-chopps-netmod-geo-location-00.txt<br class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>Pages =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: 17<br =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>Date =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: =
2019-02-26<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Abstract:<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;This document defines a generic geographical location object =
YANG<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;grouping. &nbsp;The geographical =
location grouping is intended to be used<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;in =
YANG models for specifying a location on or in reference to the<br =
class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;Earth or any other astronomical object.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The IETF datatracker status =
page for this draft is:<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chopps-netmod-geo-location/=
" =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chopps-netmod-geo-locati=
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class=3D"">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chopps-netmod-geo-location-00=
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class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-chopps-netmod-geo-l=
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