Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-20

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Subject: Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-20
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kent Watsen" <kwatsen@juniper.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 6:03 PM

> Buggers, I thought we caught that tree-diagrams informative/normative
thing before.
>
> Regardless, Clyde, please note that I think I was wrong before from
the shepherd write-up regarding idnits having a problem:
>
> """
>   == Unused Reference: 'I-D.ietf-netconf-keystore' is defined on line
1340,
>      but no explicit reference was found in the text
>      '[I-D.ietf-netconf-keystore] Watsen, K., "YANG Data Model for a
"Keys...'
>
>    This is a bug in idnits, whereby a reference that splits two lines
is
>    not found.
> """
>
> Looking at the XML, it seems that references are not specified
correctly.
>
> CURRENT:
>
>         <t>This module imports typedefs from [RFC7223], groupings from
>         [I-D.ietf-netconf-keystore], and
[I-D.ietf-netconf-tls-client-server], and it references [RFC5424],
>         [RFC5425], [RFC5426], and [RFC5848] and [Std-1003.1-2008].</t>
>
> SHOULD BE:
>
>         <t>This module imports typedefs from <xref target="RFC7223"/>,
groupings from
>         <xref target="I-D.ietf-netconf-keystore"/>, and <xref
target="I-D.ietf-netconf-tls-client-server"/>, and it references <xref
target="RFC5424"/>,
>         <xref target="RFC5425"/>, <xref target="RFC5426"/>, and <xref
target="RFC5848"/> and <xref target="Std-1003.1-2008"/>.</t>
>
> Right?
>
> And while you're at it, please update the reference to the
tree-diagrams draft (-06 is current).  Also, missing is an RFC Editor
note requesting that the I-D reference to be updated to reflect the
assigned RFC number.

Kent

You illustrate beautifully the problem I would like a solution to.

The current thinking AFAICT is that
tree-diagrams
should be an Informative Reference.

Therefore, the RFC Editor will not hold publication until an RFC number
is assigned.

Therefore, a note asking the I-D reference to be updated to reflect the
assigned RFC number is null - the RFC can be published with the
reference as an i-d and not as an RFC which is what I expect the RFC
Editor to do.

QED

Note that this is not the case of a Normative i-d reference being buried
in the YANG module and not being.noticed by the RFC Editor; that problem
I am content with.


Tom Petch








>
> Please also address these issues when posting -21 to address Benoit's
issues.  Please post -21 ASAP as Benoit has already placed this draft on
the IESG telechat in a couple weeks.
>
> Thanks,
> Kent // shepherd
>
>
> On 2/14/18, 8:18 AM, "netmod on behalf of Benoit Claise"
<netmod-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:netmod-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of
bclaise@cisco.com<mailto:bclaise@cisco.com>> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> - the draft is NMDA compliant, right? It should be mentioned.
> Ex: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7223bis-03, in the abstract and intro
>
>    The YANG model in this document conforms to the Network Management
>
>    Datastore Architecture defined in
I-D.ietf-netmod-revised-datastores.
>
>
> - As mentioned in the writeup, [I-D.ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams]
should be an informative reference, not normative.
>
> - Editorial:
> OLD:
> This draft addresses the common leafs
> NEW:
> This document addresses the common leafs
>
> Please publish a new version asap.
> In the mean time, I'm sending this draft to IETF LC.
>
> Regards, Benoit
>
>
>


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