Re: [netmod] adoption poll for yang-versioning-reqs-02

Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> Sun, 24 March 2019 22:54 UTC

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From: Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 15:54:00 -0700
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Subject: Re: [netmod] adoption poll for yang-versioning-reqs-02
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Hi,

I don't know what it means to "accept" NBC changes.
I agree this is a deviation that could be documented somehow.

Andy


On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 2:47 PM Reshad Rahman (rrahman) <rrahman@cisco.com>
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> *From: *netmod <netmod-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of 'Andy Bierman' <
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> *Date: *Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 9:59 PM
> *To: *Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net>
> *Cc: *NetMod WG <netmod@ietf.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [netmod] adoption poll for yang-versioning-reqs-02
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> On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 1:45 PM Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net> wrote:
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> Hi Andy,
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> > BTW, I do not support adoption of the requirements document at all.
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> Can you say why?   Is it a blanket statement about adopting requirements
> drafts in general, or something specific to this draft.
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> Because they just waste time.
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> They are mostly reverse engineered from the desired solution (by the
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> <RR> I don’t think we’re tied to the solution of semver or modified semver
> (speaking for myself at least). The main question on the requirements is
> whether NBC changes should be accepted. Many people seem to think so, if
> you don’t agree that’s fine, but I disagree with the claim that the
> requirements are reverse engineered from the solution, I believe the design
> team has strived to separate the 2.
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> Reshad.
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> We end up having the same debates twice.
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> It is usually worse then that, since you end up debating the wording in
> the requirements
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> instead of the merits of the solution-in-progress (considering all factors
> and readjusted requirements).
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> Kent
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> Andy
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