Re: [netmod] A reworking of RFC8343

tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> Tue, 22 October 2019 11:59 UTC

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From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
To: Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] A reworking of RFC8343
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Bjorklund" <mbj@tail-f.com>;
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:31 PM

> tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>; wrote:
> > Martin
> >
> > I am wondering how much you know about a module that says
> >       WG List:  <mailto:netmod@ietf.org>
> >       Editor:   Martin Bjorklund
> >                 <mailto:mbj@tail-f.com>";
> >
> > The module is
> >   module ietf-ucpe-interfaces {
> > in
> >   draft-shytyi-opsawg-vysm-04
>
> Haha!  I don't know anything about it.
>
> > The author appears to have taken RFC8343, changed the module and
prefix
> > name (but not the Editor) and added, at the top level,
> >    augment "/ietf-vysm:ucpe" {
> > (ucpe also appears in this I-D).  I have commented on the OPSAWG
list
> > about this approach not being one I have seen before and the
response is
> > that the yang validator is fine with it.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> Clearly unacceptable.  Unclear why a ucpe can't implement
> ietf-interfaces from 8343.
>
> > An earlier version of this module had
> >   import tailf-ncs
> > which also had me wondering.
>
> Hmm.

Martin

Thanks for that; I was rather thinking that that was the case:-)

Tom Petch

> /martin