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Hello Lada,

Maybe you are right. It is probably only important in case of mixed 
modules.  However as Rob proposed the usage of yang-data-ext I will put 
it up as an open issue in Montreal. OK?

regards Balazs


On 6/26/2018 5:30 PM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-06-26 at 15:58 +0200, Balazs Lengyel wrote:
>> Hello Lada,
>> I don't insist on using yang-data-ext, but I like it.  Isn't this the exact
>> use case for it: defining yang structured data that will never be loaded into
>> a datastore. In this case the structure of the instance-data-set fits.
> On the other hand, if it's never loaded into a datastore, there is no need to
> encapsulate the data and break tools that don't support yang-data-ext.
>
> The encapsulation is really needed only if such data is mixed with "real" YANG
> data node definitions in the same module - for example, if error-message schemas
> are defined along with datastore contents, operations etc.
>
>> If I would remove the yd:yang-data instance-data-format  statement it would
>> not affect the actual file content. It just serves as  an indication that this
>> is not  a datastore definition.
> A comment in the module should perfecty suffice. Andy argued with machine
> readability, but I don't see how it can be useful here.
>
> And, after all, if a server implementor for whatever weird reason decides to
> implement this module, what's wrong on doing so?
>
> Lada
>
>> regards Balazs
>>
>> On 6/15/2018 9:41 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I support the adoption of this I-D as a workgroup item and my plan is to
>>> implement it.
>>>
>>> However, my suggestion is to avoid the use of yang-data-ext. It is
>>> absolutely useless in this case and only complicates things that are
>>> otherwise pretty trivial.
>>>
>>> Lada
>>>
>>> Balazs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>; writes:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I submitted a new version of the yang-instance-data draft updated with
>>>> comments from the last
>>>> IETF and others. I would like to get this adopted as a workgroup item.
>>>> Please review it and if you
>>>> like it please indicate that you support it as a workgroup item.
>>>>
>>>> Changes:
>>>>     o  Redefined using yang-data-ext
>>>>     o  Moved meta data into ordinary leafs/leaf-lists
>>>>     o  Corrections, clarifications
>>>>
>>>> regards Balazs
>>>>
>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>
>>>>   Subject:   New Version Notification for draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-
>>>> instance-data-01.txt
>>>>   Date:   Wed, 13 Jun 2018 06:47:16 -0700
>>>>   From:   internet-drafts@ietf.org
>>>>   To:   Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>;, Balazs Lengyel
>>>>     <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>;
>>>>
>>>> A new version of I-D, draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data-01.txt
>>>> has been successfully submitted by Balazs Lengyel and posted to the
>>>> IETF repository.
>>>>
>>>> Name:		draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-instance-data
>>>> Revision:	01
>>>> Title:		YANG Instance Data Files and their use for
>>>> Documenting Server Capabilities
>>>> Document date:	2018-06-13
>>>> Group:		Individual Submission
>>>> Pages:		10
>>>> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lengyel-netmod-
>>>> yang-instance-data-01.txt
>>>> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lengyel-netmod-yang
>>>> -instance-data/
>>>> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lengyel-netmod-yang-inst
>>>> ance-data-01
>>>> Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-lengyel-netmod
>>>> -yang-instance-data
>>>> Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-lengyel-netmod-yan
>>>> g-instance-data-01
>>>>
>>>> Abstract:
>>>>     This document specifies a standard file format for YANG instance
>>>>     data, that is data that could be stored in a datastore and whose
>>>>     syntax and semantics is defined by YANG models.  Instance data files
>>>>     can be used to provide information that is defined in design time.
>>>>     There is a need to document Server capabilities (which are often
>>>>     specified in design time), which should be done using instance data
>>>>     files.
>>>>
>>>>                                                                            
>>>>          
>>>>
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