Re: [netmod] Important: Guidelines for YANG module authors
Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Sat, 10 June 2017 06:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [netmod] Important: Guidelines for YANG module authors
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On 6/10/2017 5:42 AM, Kent Watsen wrote: > > Yes, let's rewrite 6.23 completely to state more helpfully what's in > the guidelines draft. > > I don't expect the guidelines doc is going to progress independently. Agreed. Regards, B. > > Kent. // shepherd > > > On Jun 9, 2017, at 1:06 PM, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com > <mailto:andy@yumaworks.com>> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am trying to complete rfc6087bis. >> It has been held up waiting for this draft. >> It is not clear to me how sec. 6.23 (Operational Data) needs to change. >> Should the whole section be replaced by an informative reference to >> this new draft? >> >> >> Andy >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:56 AM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com >> <mailto:bclaise@cisco.com>> wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> Now that the new NETMOD and NETCONF charters have been approved, >> it's time to think about the guidelines for YANG module authors. >> >> The Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) addresses >> the so-called "OpState problem" that has been the subject of much >> discussion in the IETF. NMDA is still in development, and there >> will be a transition period before NMDA solutions are universally >> available. >> >> The NETMOD Datastore Design Team and the Routing Yang >> Architecture Design Team have worked with Alia and Benoit to >> create initial guidelines for how the NMDA, as defined in >> draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores >> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores/>, >> impacts Yang models. The draft-dsdt-nmda-guidelines >> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dsdt-nmda-guidelines/> >> individual draft was foundational in helping creating those >> guidelines. >> >> If you have questions or concerns on how these guidelines should >> apply to work of interest, please contact your WG Chairs or ADs. >> >> It is our strong recommendation, as ADs with agreement from the >> NETMOD WG Chairs, that models SHOULD move as quickly as possible >> to the NMDA. The specific approach to be taken for models being >> developed now and during the NMDA transition period should be >> based on both the expected usage and the maturity of the data model. >> >> 1. New models and models that are not concerned with the >> operational state of configuration information SHOULD immediately >> be structured to be NMDA-compatible. >> >> 2. Models that require immediate support for "in use" and "system >> created" information SHOULD be structured for NMDA. Then derived >> versions of these models SHOULD be created, either by hand or >> with suitable tools, that follow the current modeling strategies. >> In some cases, the non-NMDA model may be an existing model and >> not derived from the NMDA model. In all cases, the NMDA and >> non-NMDA modules SHOULD be published in the same document, with >> NMDA modules in the document main body and the non-NMDA modules >> in an Appendix. The use of the non-NMDA model will allow >> temporary bridging of the time period until NMDA implementations >> are available. The non-NMDA module names should include ’-state’ >> appended. >> >> We would like to thank Kent Watsen, Lou Berger, Rob Wilton, >> Martin Bjorklund, Phil Shafer, Acee Lindem, Chris Hopps, Juergen >> Schoenwaelder, and all others who helped develop these guidelines. >> >> Regards, >> Alia Atlas, Routing AD >> Deborah Brungard, Routing AD >> Alvaro Retana, Routing AD >> Warren Kumari, Operations & Management AD >> Benoit Claise, Operations & Management AD >> >> _______________________________________________ >> netmod mailing list >> netmod@ietf.org <mailto:netmod@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod >> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> netmod mailing list >> netmod@ietf.org <mailto:netmod@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
- [netmod] Important: Guidelines for YANG module au… Benoit Claise
- Re: [netmod] Important: Guidelines for YANG modul… Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] Important: Guidelines for YANG modul… Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] Important: Guidelines for YANG modul… Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] Important: Guidelines for YANG modul… Benoit Claise