Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 (5514)
Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Fri, 05 October 2018 16:13 UTC
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Subject: Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 (5514)
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My personal opinion (with any hat on) is that it isn't appropriate to make a technical change that impacts implementation in an errata. Clarifications of original intent, corrections of inconsistencies and editorial corrections are perfectly appropriate. I'm happy to learn that this intended use/scope of errata is wrong. Lou On 10/5/2018 10:28 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > Well, if you think an errata does not work, we can file a one page > document with N pages of boilerplate around it. > > /js > > On Fri, Oct 05, 2018 at 08:14:33AM -0400, Lou Berger wrote: >> Juergen, >> >> The document says what it says, i.e., "The origin for any top-level >> configuration data nodes must be specified." Changes to this would require >> a BIS or an RFC that updates this document. >> >> Lou >> >> >> On 10/5/2018 6:14 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> the authors have been discussing whether the top-level requirement is >>> too strict but there has not been a clear conclusion yet I think. In >>> the example, all nodes to have a defined origin and hence the origin >>> at the root will have zero effect. >>> >>> /js >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 05, 2018 at 02:48:08AM -0700, RFC Errata System wrote: >>>> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8342, >>>> "Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA)". >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------- >>>> You may review the report below and at: >>>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5514 >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------- >>>> Type: Technical >>>> Reported by: Rohit R Ranade <rohitrranade@huawei.com> >>>> >>>> Section: C.1 >>>> >>>> Original Text >>>> ------------- >>>> <system >>>> xmlns="urn:example:system" >>>> xmlns:or="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-origin"> >>>> >>>> <hostname or:origin="or:learned">bar.example.com</hostname> >>>> >>>> <interface or:origin="or:intended"> >>>> <name>eth0</name> >>>> <auto-negotiation> >>>> <enabled or:origin="or:default">true</enabled> >>>> <speed>1000</speed> >>>> </auto-negotiation> >>>> <speed>100</speed> >>>> <address> >>>> <ip>2001:db8::10</ip> >>>> <prefix-length>64</prefix-length> >>>> </address> >>>> <address or:origin="or:learned"> >>>> <ip>2001:db8::1:100</ip> >>>> <prefix-length>64</prefix-length> >>>> </address> >>>> </interface> >>>> >>>> <interface or:origin="or:system"> >>>> <name>lo0</name> >>>> <address> >>>> <ip>::1</ip> >>>> <prefix-length>128</prefix-length> >>>> </address> >>>> </interface> >>>> >>>> </system> >>>> >>>> Corrected Text >>>> -------------- >>>> <system >>>> xmlns="urn:example:system" >>>> xmlns:or="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-origin" >>>> or:origin="or:intended"> >>>> >>>> <hostname or:origin="or:learned">bar.example.com</hostname> >>>> >>>> <interface or:origin="or:intended"> >>>> <name>eth0</name> >>>> <auto-negotiation> >>>> <enabled or:origin="or:default">true</enabled> >>>> <speed>1000</speed> >>>> </auto-negotiation> >>>> <speed>100</speed> >>>> <address> >>>> <ip>2001:db8::10</ip> >>>> <prefix-length>64</prefix-length> >>>> </address> >>>> <address or:origin="or:learned"> >>>> <ip>2001:db8::1:100</ip> >>>> <prefix-length>64</prefix-length> >>>> </address> >>>> </interface> >>>> >>>> <interface or:origin="or:system"> >>>> <name>lo0</name> >>>> <address> >>>> <ip>::1</ip> >>>> <prefix-length>128</prefix-length> >>>> </address> >>>> </interface> >>>> >>>> </system> >>>> >>>> Notes >>>> ----- >>>> There was no "origin" attribute to the "system" top-level container, though it is a configuration node. >>>> As per the extension definition "The origin for any top-level configuration data nodes must be specified." >>>> >>>> To choose an extension for top-level container in such cases, I would prefer one of the origin of its children and used "intended". , instead of "unknown". >>>> >>>> This has already been discussed in the mail chain, but also mentioned here to help readers in future. >>>> >>>> Instructions: >>>> ------------- >>>> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please >>>> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or >>>> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party >>>> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------- >>>> RFC8342 (draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-10) >>>> -------------------------------------- >>>> Title : Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) >>>> Publication Date : March 2018 >>>> Author(s) : M. Bjorklund, J. Schoenwaelder, P. Shafer, K. Watsen, R. Wilton >>>> Category : PROPOSED STANDARD >>>> Source : Network Modeling >>>> Area : Operations and Management >>>> Stream : IETF >>>> Verifying Party : IESG >> _______________________________________________ >> netmod mailing list >> netmod@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
- [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 (551… RFC Errata System
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8342 … Rohit R Ranade