Re: [netmod] draft netmod charter update proposal

Robert Wilton <rwilton@cisco.com> Fri, 17 March 2017 14:04 UTC

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Subject: Re: [netmod] draft netmod charter update proposal
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Hi,

Would 7950bis be allowed to have a normative reference to an 
Informational RFC that defined the YANG datastores?

If we did a 7950bis document (and it isn't clear that one is actually 
required to support the revised datastores draft) then does that mean we 
would also need to have a new version of YANG?

That would potentially seem like a backwards step.  Also what would it 
mean for an implementation that is aware of the new datastores but is 
using a mix of YANG modules with different versions?

I don't understand why the revised datastores draft should not be 
standards track once the various appendices have been moved out, noting 
that they are really only in the one draft at this stage because it 
seemed like that would make it easier for folks to review and comment on.

Is the only issue here which WG the draft is being worked on?

Thanks,
Rob


On 17/03/2017 13:22, Mehmet Ersue wrote:
> I think YANG identities should be standardized with 7950bis.
>
> Mehmet
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 12:28 PM
>> To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>;
>> Mehmet Ersue <mersue@gmail.com>
>> Cc: 'Kent Watsen' <kwatsen@juniper.net>; netmod@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [netmod] draft netmod charter update proposal
>>
>> Juergen,
>>
>> Thank you for the input.  I think your point highlights how the technical
>> contents of a document drives the intended status of a document.
>>
>> Lou
>>
>> PS as a reminder to all, intended status of documents is *not* typically
>> included in charters and are not included in the distributed version.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On March 16, 2017 2:44:53 AM Juergen Schoenwaelder
>> <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 02:50:06PM +0100, Mehmet Ersue wrote:
>>>
>>>> That said different people including Netconf WG co-chairs think the DS
>>>> concept document is Informational in nature and should be published as
>> an
>>>> Informational concept to be used in and adopted for the needs in
> diverse
>>>> protocol WGs. This is as I think also important to avoid an overlapping
>>>> between NETCONF and NETMOD charters.
>>> The current datastore draft includes concrete YANG idenity definitions
>>> for datastores and origins and these definitions better be standards
>>> track.
>>>
>>> /js
>>>
>>> --
>>> Juergen Schoenwaelder           Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH
>>> Phone: +49 421 200 3587         Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany
>>> Fax:   +49 421 200 3103         <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>
>>>
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