Re: [netmod] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg-24: (with COMMENT)

"Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> Wed, 02 November 2016 11:21 UTC

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From: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>
To: Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz>
Thread-Topic: [netmod] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg-24: (with COMMENT)
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Subject: Re: [netmod] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg-24: (with COMMENT)
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On 11/2/16, 3:52 AM, "Ladislav Lhotka" <lhotka@nic.cz> wrote:

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>> On 2 Nov 2016, at 01:45, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:
>> 
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>> On 11/1/16, 8:23 PM, "Ben Campbell" <ben@nostrum.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 1 Nov 2016, at 15:55, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Ben,
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/1/16, 4:19 PM, "Ben Campbell" <ben@nostrum.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for
>>>>> draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg-24: No Objection
>>>>> 
>>>>> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
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>>>>> this
>>>>> introductory paragraph, however.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please refer to
>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
>>>>> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> COMMENT:
>>>>> 
>>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Should the reference to 6536. Be normative?
>>>> 
>>>> I certainly don’t think so. This is simply an informative reference
>>>> describing the NETCONF access control model. The model in the draft is
>>>> in
>>>> no way dependent on this model.
>>> 
>>> I can't call myself a NETCONF expert--but if you use the model in this
>>> draft over NETCONF, are there other access control models one might
>>> realistically use? (Noting that NETCONF itself is a normative
>>> reference.)
>> 
>> NETCONF probably should not be - I’ll confer with my co-author. Note
>>that
>> NETCONF and NETCONF ACM are normative references in RFC 7223.
>
>You probably meant "are not normative references", which is the case in
>RFC 7223. It makes sense to keep it this way for data modelling work -
>securing access to data is a protocol issue. Simple implementations may
>not need the granularity of NACM, and can instead allow access only to a
>"root" user.

Yes - that’s what I meant. I’d vote to make them both informative as in
RFC 7223 - especially with the trend to use YANG with different transport
protocols. 

Thanks,
Acee


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>Lada
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>> Thanks,
>> Acee 
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>>> Ben.
>>> 
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