Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-artwork-folding-03.txt

"Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Mon, 17 June 2019 18:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-artwork-folding-03.txt
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Kent, 

Thanks for the work.

 

I had a clear understanding of what "precede a space" means.

I struggle to understand what "on top of" means in a stream of characters. I
wondered whether you were referring to vertical placement on the page (the
text is talking about columns), but that seems crazy!

Do you mean that the fold must not be occupied by a space character?

I think the question is whether it is easier to describe a fold happening
between characters or at a character slot.

The original text used the "between characters" approach. If you prefer to
say you fold at a column, that's fine, but probably "on top of" isn't as
clear as "the column at which we fold must not contain a space".

 

Best,

Adrian

 

 

From: netmod <netmod-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Kent Watsen
Sent: 17 June 2019 18:39
To: netmod@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-artwork-folding-03.txt

 

 

I just posted an Editorial update that only touches the non-normative script
to add a -q (quiet) flag.  Here's the diff:
https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-netmod-artwork-folding-04.txt
.

 

Separately, it's been more than two weeks since the below message.   There
has been no comments on #2 below, and so the chairs can more forward with
the publishing request now?

 

Kent // author (recused chair)

 

 





On May 30, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Kent Watsen <kent@watsen.net
<mailto:kent@watsen.net> > wrote:

 

 

This update reflects the changes discussed during the Last Call plus the
following additional changes:

 

  1) s/see if any/ensure at least one/  (EDITORIAL: sounded too casual
before)

  2) s/MUST NOT precede a space (' ') character/MUST NOT be on top of a
space (' ') character/  (TECHNICAL: see below)

  3) wrapped the script with <CODE BEGINS> and <CODE ENDS> (EDITORIAL, per
idnits)

 

Regarding #2, this change was made after I examined the algorithm more
carefully.  It would be good for others to confirm this rather critical
change.

 

Thanks,

Kent // contributor

 

 





On May 30, 2019, at 10:30 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org
<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>  wrote:

 


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.
This draft is a work item of the Network Modeling WG of the IETF.

       Title           : Handling Long Lines in Inclusions in
Internet-Drafts and RFCs
       Authors         : Kent Watsen
                         Adrian Farrel
                         Qin Wu
   Filename        : draft-ietf-netmod-artwork-folding-03.txt
       Pages           : 25
       Date            : 2019-05-30

Abstract:
  This document defines two strategies for handling long lines in
  width-bounded text content.  One strategy is based on the historic
  use of a single backslash ('\') character to indicate where line-
  folding has occurred, with the continuation occurring with the first
  non-space (' ') character on the next line.  The second strategy
  extends the first strategy by adding a second backslash character to
  identify where the continuation begins and thereby able to handle
  cases not supported by the first strategy.  Both strategies use a
  self-describing header enabling automated reconstitution of the
  original content.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-artwork-folding/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-artwork-folding-03
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netmod-artwork-folding-03

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-netmod-artwork-folding-03


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

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