Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library
Robert Wilton <rwilton@cisco.com> Fri, 19 January 2018 18:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library
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On 17/01/2018 16:40, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> wrote: <snip> >>> Ok. I'm ok with keeping the inline case as it is. However, I think >> I don't agree. The metadata annotation solves real issues. > One issue with the annotation is that since the schema might be > different in different datastores, it means that the client needs to > read the annotation in all datastores, and then fetch the schemas. So > it is a bit more difficult to work with for a client. I'm still not convinced that I really understand all the arguments here: Using YLbis over YL seems to have obvious benefits to me, in that I perceive that it gives a cleaner data model. But I also understand Lou's concerns - although its not clear to me whether Lou's primary concern is timing, or the fact that implementations are forced to use YLbis. I also agree with Juergen that from an YLbis authors perspective YLbis is quite close. I believe that the YANG model itself has been agreed (at the interim meeting in Nov/Dec), and hence really what is left is just tidying/enhancing the descriptive text in the document. I don't really understand the benefits of the metadata annotations. It feels like this is going to be more hassle because a client will have to query each datastore separately rather than getting the information in a single operation. A regular (without SM) NMDA NC/YANG server supports multiple datastores, but that information is only exposed via one so them (i.e. <operational>). So, in a server supporting inline SM, it seems quite natural to me for the mounted schema information to also only be available via the mounted <operational>. This seems to mirror the standard NC/YANG+YL behavior, and also seems to naturally recurse if required. Hence, for me, I see the choice as: 1) do we publish the existing model now (perhaps also mark the draft as experimental) followed by an updated draft with the NMDA compatible module? 2) do we publish both models in a single draft (e.g. with the existing model in an appendix)? 3) do we only publish a single version of the draft with an NMDA compliant solution. Thanks, Rob
- [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library joel jaeggli
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library joel jaeggli
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Dean Bogdanovic
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library Martin Bjorklund