Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Mon, 04 December 2017 20:01 UTC
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Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 21:00:19 +0100
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
To: Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA
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On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 07:09:51PM +0100, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > Well, according to draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-07: > > o datastore schema: The combined set of schema nodes for all modules > supported by a particular datastore, taking into consideration any > deviations and enabled features for that datastore. > > And "when" determines whether a given schema node is valid or > not. So if a schema node is invalid in the schema of <operational> > but valid in the schema of <intended>, then the former can hardly be > a superset of the latter. I do not follow your notion of 'schema node is valid or not'. Where is this concept defined? I think RFC 7950 talks about validation of data trees against a "schema". Perhaps there are places where the wording is not clear enough? I know that there are places where the RFC 7950 text says just "node" without being explicit about the distinction between schema node and corresponding data nodes. If this is an issue here, we may consider posting erratas to clear things up. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>
- [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Andy Bierman
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Alex Campbell
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Robert Wilton
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] evaluation of "when" under NMDA Ladislav Lhotka