Re: [netmod] Query about draft-ietf-netconf-rfc7895bis-06

Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> Wed, 09 May 2018 18:38 UTC

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From: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>
To: Robert Wilton <rwilton@cisco.com>, Rohit R Ranade <rohitrranade@huawei.com>, "netmod@ietf.org" <netmod@ietf.org>
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Thread-Topic: [netmod] Query about draft-ietf-netconf-rfc7895bis-06
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Subject: Re: [netmod] Query about draft-ietf-netconf-rfc7895bis-06
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[+netconf, since this discussion regards a netconf draft]

> But possibly a useful discussion to have may be what the members of the 
> NETCONF WG perceives is the future for the IETF network management 
> protocols.

I'm an advocate for RESTCONF being as capable as NETCONF, and perhaps
more capable (e.g., binary encoding, etags, etc.).

It would be nice to consolidate on one protocol, but I don't know how
market forces would ever allow us to do that...

Kent // contributor